Week 3 replays o.0 zenith

[xabo]

http://gg-no-re.com/browse.php?q=new&sid=54fed691a34c206b9186e063da8191a0

[sheny_1]

o.O?ty ? lols?

[KcP.šìç[k]™]

ouch...lost to x6.

[genyaarikado123]

http://forums.dota-allstars.com/index.php?showtopic=133246


the biggest question tat everybody is asking.

Y medusa?

[Reya]

might feed early game but own late game..
but they had two late game along with 3 good support.. lols..

[genyaarikado123]

i think in this tournament, zenith has got their drafts all wrong.

[Reya]

ya anyway, the draft is really dream team lols..

[StripperA]

i think in this tournament, zenith has got their drafts all wrong.

u draft for them next time la lol

[benfwL]

i think in this tournament, zenith has got their drafts all wrong.


less qq more pewpew

[genyaarikado123]

lol the drafting is based on one's opinions. whether it is good or not dpends on the team itself. the draft has to fit the team strat. i would say the team must have a vision as to how they wanna play the game.

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[yurec]

the draft msut be balanced. cannot just be base on sole opinions.

if enemy draft 3 pusher and 1 aoe + a late game carry while yours is mainly catch + farm. who will win?

[StripperA]

lol the drafting is based on one's opinions. whether it is good or not dpends on the team itself. the draft has to fit the team strat. i would say the team must have a vision as to how they wanna play the game.

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play for zenith la lol

[<3dwarf]

why the title got a o.O

[d0minic]

act cute ma lol.

[genyaarikado123]

maybe my phrasing was wrong. it should meant the team's opinions.

[genyaarikado123]

i already have my own clan and have no interest in joining zenith

[Arby_Ng]

i think sg should host against euro lol.

[StripperA]

gen u should pk zenith..lol

[d0minic]

i think sg should host against euro lol.


this wont be the case. they will get a neutral host. meaning none of them will host . i mean if sg host . sg no lag ma. so must get that kind of neutral host which is usually the referees. like some sort of in between the two countries.

[genyaarikado123]

not only is it neutral but both sides will have to agree to a neutral host.i think in one of the games they changed hosts like 20 times coz zenith was unssatisfied.

[StripperA]

xXxCaucasiansxXx really likexz tormented soul huh

[weee]

coz their souls are tormented..:Banane22:

[<3dwarf]

coz their souls are tormented..:Banane22:

wth.... u come so rarely and u speak this kinda things...

back to topic, sg has to prove the angmoh wrong!

[jl89]

ang moh's are imbal:D

[weee]

rofl..i would say sg's supports care too much about farming..

u mite wanna watch how this vs play..no-life wardings ftw!

in sg, if your end items is the same as the vs in this replay, you will definitely be deemed as "weak"..

[d4rkw1sH]

well we do have plans of our own and it doesnt mean winning =) just watch on getting funnier

[<3dwarf]

sounds mysterious =/

[KcP.šìç[k]™]

seriously vs, 1 boots. ownage

[<3dwarf]

actually there's a build for vs, similar to that of veno which is the freaking empty bottle

though it's quite hard for vs to farm up to 700 gold, which means you have to sacrifice some warding for the bottle but it's really useful

bottle = almost dun nid go back base. when the bottle is empty, try go to the rune area and look for runes to fill ur bottle, once the rune is used, ur bottle will be full again. if there's no rune, perhaps farm neutral or go back to base to refill ur bottle.

but there's just something dat i hate which is chicken cant fill the bottle, but nevertherless it's still a good item imo, perhaps gt some bracers and bot and you can just go ard bs-ing =/

[charaeb]

i've juz finished the replay. hmmn. zenith.. didnt really concentrate on them but: medusa zeus top lock mid doom veno bt. i think doom veno was pretty good but the qop had very gd reaction lol. he even attempted to blink from the ss serveral times and the veno didnt even ss in the end. the qop made a really stupid move by screaming and poking the doom when he was lvl 5. i mean, perharps he dunno doom's lvl death well enough. bottom was controlling but the major thing is with the top lane. vs/sk/tormented really ownage. this vs played damn well as a catcher. he was patient enough to really hide to get the kill. it was like 1 wave passed, zenith top playing cautiously. 2nd wave came medusa attempted to last hit DEN there came the stun and gg to medusa with no blink no hp or rather no escape mechinism. dunno if thats the right word. the vs warded heavily. the qop could not farm early game but ltr on did well. silencer, i didnt really go and notice but he farmed well against the lock, he got a mek and they attempted the early push but zenith def well. zenith did not attempt to push perharps because they were losing in kills + gold + wards + scoruge too many agies. it was like qop agies sk agies ts agies and vs dies or not not impt in def as in, low piority. the silencer does not really dies alot too. i must comment on the sk's save. he did 1 damn nice one whereby zeus was nearly killing silencer.. zeus blinked. sk stuned and blink away when he had like 100+200hp.. damn classic. hmmn, overall...... i think x6 won because most of them had agies so they died and bot over, making it very hard to def. eg: zen killed 2 x6 killed 2, zenith no agies but x6 agies, they bot over and it was 5v3. very hard to def lidat so they ended up raxing. ok i dunno wdf im talking also.

[Prince-of-Lies]

i tot Zenith played very well though,the top tri lane was controlled by x6 but btm was zen's ,imo game changing events were roshan and trading of aegis charges for kills

[SuZuKa]

this is the first game which zenith has a real chance at winning....
but i dun get why zenith are so badly prepared for their 3-1-1.... the triple hero lane which usually consist of vs/ts/sk/lina/veno etc are pretty standard, seen in almost all their games... losing that badly in early game affected quite abit of the outcome of the game... but i think most importantly is their aegis... if not tofuboi's medusa would have got alot richer and stronger if all his kills were not on those aegis heros....

Zenith is getting closer to their first win.... hope they can do it next week..

[xabo]

i've juz finished the replay. hmmn. zenith.. didnt really concentrate on them but: medusa zeus top lock mid doom veno bt. i think doom veno was pretty good but the qop had very gd reaction lol. he even attempted to blink from the ss serveral times and the veno didnt even ss in the end. the qop made a really stupid move by screaming and poking the doom when he was lvl 5. i mean, perharps he dunno doom's lvl death well enough. bottom was controlling but the major thing is with the top lane. vs/sk/tormented really ownage. this vs played damn well as a catcher. he was patient enough to really hide to get the kill. it was like 1 wave passed, zenith top playing cautiously. 2nd wave came medusa attempted to last hit DEN there came the stun and gg to medusa with no blink no hp or rather no escape mechinism. dunno if thats the right word. the vs warded heavily. the qop could not farm early game but ltr on did well. silencer, i didnt really go and notice but he farmed well against the lock, he got a mek and they attempted the early push but zenith def well. zenith did not attempt to push perharps because they were losing in kills + gold + wards + scoruge too many agies. it was like qop agies sk agies ts agies and vs dies or not not impt in def as in, low piority. the silencer does not really dies alot too. i must comment on the sk's save. he did 1 damn nice one whereby zeus was nearly killing silencer.. zeus blinked. sk stuned and blink away when he had like 100+200hp.. damn classic. hmmn, overall...... i think x6 won because most of them had agies so they died and bot over, making it very hard to def. eg: zen killed 2 x6 killed 2, zenith no agies but x6 agies, they bot over and it was 5v3. very hard to def lidat so they ended up raxing. ok i dunno wdf im talking also.

actually i think hes quite right. the engagement zenith lost because. opponent keep boting back after they died. tormented soul, qop, and silencer all had aegis, thus managing to kill zenith heros and rax.

[blaze.Teriyaki.(tR]

Foreigner's favourite item is boot of travel!And its deadly

[charaeb]

bot + agies is ownage! btw, the silencer no agies - - his end items were i think bot guinsoo mek butterfly hot and something i forgot. wonder why butterfly though.. although + evasion and atk speed which he lacks, BUT ... i dunno contravasial or how ever u spell that word

[wakabake]

i think zenith played quite well in this game.
someone say why medusa....i guess he never watch what the opponent type at the near end of the game.... dude " the bkb mesa and doom will tear us and our tower apart"

I guessed they wanted to use zeus and medussa to spam their lighting on top lane to hold off the 3 - 1 -1 formation with WL going to their aid when he lvl 6 with inferno...pull into late game and bkb medussa and bkb doom with good items will win the game for them...

They are adepting to how the ang moh play this game...but one thing u notice is in the 3 game they played the westerner alway got a plan to do instant high damage during mass fight or strategy for mass fight.. remember was it the second game of zenith...ene..they used sf lothar ulti during battle with coordination with sk epic blink and ts ulti...which means instant 1k++ damage...

in this game...u can see clearly at the mid second tower and top second tower..where they had a irritating plan too . qop position from far..sk keep a distant too....the vs would do a swap and stun....and if the opposit team try to rescue...or engage..qop would try a wave to catch as many hero as possible and sk blink epic..and ts with his ulti/spells going around..it was rather messy so i did not catch whether they did silencer ulti to go with it or not...
quite alot of aoe damage here too..other then bkb heroes...the rest suffered at least half life or more..before they blink out...

Anyway it is nice to alway have a nice strategy for tower push and mess fight. Nice replay again~~

[darkillidan]

well said charaeb.

[StripperA]

dun use the term 'ang mor' call em caucasian or something~

[Prince-of-Lies]

They are adepting to how the ang moh play this game...but one thing u notice is in the 3 game they played the westerner alway got a plan to do instant high damage during mass fight or strategy for mass fight.. remember was it the second game of zenith...ene..they used sf lothar ulti during battle with coordination with sk epic blink and ts ulti...which means instant 1k++ damage...

in this game...u can see clearly at the mid second tower and top second tower..where they had a irritating plan too . qop position from far..sk keep a distant too....the vs would do a swap and stun....and if the opposit team try to rescue...or engage..qop would try a wave to catch as many hero as possible and sk blink epic..and ts with his ulti/spells going around..it was rather messy so i did not catch whether they did silencer ulti to go with it or not...
quite alot of aoe damage here too..other then bkb heroes...the rest suffered at least half life or more..before they blink out...

Anyway it is nice to alway have a nice strategy for tower push and mess fight. Nice replay again~~


Zenith was also smart to always back off behind the tower using their heroes with blink to try to bait the swap...alot of times the vs swap the zeus instant blink out and the vs died in 3seconds.ice also did very well in the battles, afew battles where he stay out of sight behind trees around the towers then go in and nova and escaped quickly to his teammates

[StripperA]

i dun believe u, lol..just jk