Help needed on last hitting.

[StripperY]

When i use qop or any other low base dmg heros, i'm unable to really time properly on last hits due to her low base dmg. But, when i used silencer or sf, my last hit timing was perfect because of high base dmg(glaves, +60dmg). So, just wondering if anyone can give tips or helps for last hitting with low base dmg heros..

[ngtes]

instead of hitting when 100hp, hit when its 60hp....

[StripperY]

problem is either i timed it too early or when i release my projectile and the creep is killed -_-

[xenOgenesis]

problem is either i timed it too early or when i release my projectile and the creep is killed -_-
correct me if im wrong but for some heroes, the projectiles would be slower...
faster ones and easy farming would be sniper? hmms...
this applies to melee too...the attacking speed...the swinging action ...

O.O

[StripperA]

desmond, scream more :D

[nic0las]

go closer so the projectile dont have to move so far.. or use the stop-stop method. need coordination though, and im still not able to use the stop-stop method properly.

[stop-stop as in press 's' to make your hero stop before throwing projectile then release when right time. side effect: makes hero look retarded]

[ngtes]

dood then i seriously cant help u. normally early-mid game there will be around a roughly 1 second gap when the creep has hp for u to kill till the creep itself dies.
EG. the time taken for the creep to go from 60hp to 0hp [ur hero's dmg is 60] is roughly 1 second

ohooh i thought of something. play single player solo. if u miss any creep in the lane.RESTART. :)

[DOTASG_PAPA]

dood then i seriously cant help u. normally early-mid game there will be around a roughly 1 second gap when the creep has hp for u to kill till the creep itself dies.
EG. the time taken for the creep to go from 60hp to 0hp [ur hero's dmg is 60] is roughly 1 second

ohooh i thought of something. play single player solo. if u miss any creep in the lane.RESTART. :)

Yes, actually ngtes' suggestion of "play single player solo. if u miss any creep in the lane.RESTART" is good. Doing that will force you to cultivate the habit of and slowly perfect your skill in last hitting. The more you train the more it become a reflex to do last hitting.
This is high level training so anyone who wanna to perfect their last hit should follow his advice.

[StripperY]

Sigh, that's what i doing too. I solo a lane in single player by myself til lv11 and check my total cs. For the attack animation, i'm pretty ok with qop as it's fast but the base dmg is simply too low and hard to time. And to dan, stop posting please, every thread also got your name -_-

[GenGen.]

=) Why don't you play in a twin lane then... At lease you 2 can now hit at 60x2=120 hp :D! .. Or you can disregard farming and go straight to aggro-ing at level 1 ((:

Leave the solo lane to someone else. I personally think the solo hero needs to have nerves of steel in order to face someone 1v1 upfront... Aggro here is nearly impossible I think...

[weee]

instead of hitting when 100hp, hit when its 60hp....

hmm do you mean you roughly know where is the 60hp barline on the hpbar abv the creeps?
or keep checking on the creeps' health by selecting it..(which i don't think tis is the case?)

[Reya]

is the almighty des asking how to last hit ?

[ruixiang]

hmm do you mean you roughly know where is the 60hp barline on the hpbar abv the creeps?
or keep checking on the creeps' health by selecting it..(which i don't think tis is the case?)

estimate lor... dun tell me ur estimation skills cmi which i tink shd b true. always say pls wen asking qn. Gosu character education.

[xenOgenesis]

restarting the game when you miss a creep in a single game sounds a bit extreme...but yeah...its like forcing yourself to make it into a habit.

still, certain games will have different delays. like 0.6 to o.4 secs respond time.
that will need a lot of experience in calculating the tiny differences in respond time. =\

[StripperY]

=) Why don't you play in a twin lane then... At lease you 2 can now hit at 60x2=120 hp :D! .. Or you can disregard farming and go straight to aggro-ing at level 1 ((:

Leave the solo lane to someone else. I personally think the solo hero needs to have nerves of steel in order to face someone 1v1 upfront... Aggro here is nearly impossible I think...

Soloing or not soloing also require basic micro and last hitting mah, so now need train lo :Banane47:

Not really need to miss 1 creep and restart la, just play to lv11 and check total cs, if got improvement from yesterday than happy enough lo lol

[StripperY]

is the almighty des asking how to last hit ?

Hey, reya. Quitted for dota for very long now recently playing back, become noob liao.

[d0minic]

When i use qop or any other low base dmg heros, i'm unable to really time properly on last hits due to her low base dmg. But, when i used silencer or sf, my last hit timing was perfect because of high base dmg(glaves, +60dmg). So, just wondering if anyone can give tips or helps for last hitting with low base dmg heros..


this kind of thing really nobody can help one. is like u press alt key, then u try and last hit. if u know u cant hit it the first time, relax . then at the second time u wait till its lower and try and find the best " one-hit kill creep " that kind of life.

[SG_Lancelot]

train last hits using tech.


if u can 100 creep kills in 25mins wif tech...


ask ngtes invite u to micro =P

[StripperA]

just suicide into the creep u get the whole wave, dunnid micro one desmond :D

[StripperY]

just suicide into the creep u get the whole wave, dunnid micro one desmond :D

shit you dan

[B|a h x 3 `]

Desmond Is Back Sia !

[Reya]

Hey, reya. Quitted for dota for very long now recently playing back, become noob liao.

icic, never see you online also. i recently came back dotasg NIA. come back see papa like angry sial.

[StripperY]

icic, never see you online also. i recently came back dotasg NIA. come back see papa like angry sial.

what your msn? =x last mth i deleted alot of contacts may have deleted yours.

[Reya]

gay. why delete me =[

[princeed]

gay. why delete me =[

at least betta than blockin =x JK :D ppl just too many contact la >.<

[StripperY]

gay. why delete me =[

oi give your email la i readd

[tantk]

whosyourdaddy in solo games for effective last hitting!

[Archdevilasd]

train last hits using tech.


if u can 100 creep kills in 25mins wif tech...


ask ngtes invite u to micro =P

oo really? if i send you replay of me doing it u get me into micro arhz =P

[Archdevilasd]

anyways.. i also dunno how to last hit one.. so my tactic is to wait for the 8 gold .. not that bad.. but you must try not to die so you wont minus money..

or not do what i always do.. if no hero there i faster go 1v1 the talon so i confirm got one gold..and i always buy attack speed so i attack more times more chance to that the hit is a last hit..

my 1 dollar and 5 cents

[OpelxFrost]

actually single player game isn't effective at all for training your last hit cause it lacks one major factor; your opponent shooting the creep. But it does help out a little for those just learning to last hit/deny.

If you really wan to improve your ability to last hit/deny, make use of the creep AI. Notice that enemy creep when within 400 to 500 range of you run towards and attempt to hit you if u right click opponent hero. This will cease the dps on ur creep and ur opponent will most likely attempt to shoot the creep thinking that it will be a last hit (but since dmg is ceased due to creep AI, you will be able to deny that creep). The same logic can be applied to countering opponent deny or to farm creep.

[YupiGummyBear]

use techies to train last hit!! then once u master liao others sure no prob!! then if u get fed up u cant get 1 creep or wat u can BOOM get the whole wave..!