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SG_Lancelot
09-11-2007, 04:03 PM
Well i searched the forum havent found one thats active so i figured i would start one. ok i share one that i did read it, rate it, comment and offer improvements to it.

here it is:





Control – Late Strategy for Draft
LaNce

Foreword – This strategy mainly focuses on aggressive lane control to allow late heroes to farm and with that bit of early/mid farming advantage, to continue pressing levels of opponents down with runners while keeping late gamers over leveled. We may have small disadvantage during engage due to focusing on picking heroes with more running and controlling abilities. Nevertheless, no matter how good the engagers are, what is the use if they cant farm up their items at all?





The Heroes
Scenario – Sentinels

Top :

{CONTROLLER/RUNNER}<Neurubian Assassin> [FIXED HERO,1st pick] – lane control and running abilities this hero is undeniably choosen. With the simple act of mana burning to keep lanes opponents enable to execute skills, we can ensure his lane mate a lot of farming ease.

{LATE/ESCAPE MECHANISM} <Queen of Pain, Bone Fletcher(testing), Priestess of the Moon> [order of pick varies] farm farm and farm are what this player does. Escape mechanism is to ensure the player is able to avoid ganks if the lane controller/runner is making is trips around the map.


Mid :


{CONTROLLER/CATCHER OR ENGAGER}<Warlock, Bane Elemental, Tinker> [most prob last or 2nd last pick see oppo heroes]
This is a control strat. Mid has to have control early before heroes start to run and engage. That slight early game advantage may mean a lot at late game stage.



Bot :

{PULLER, FOGGER, CATCHER OR ENGAGER OR CONTROLLER}<catcher – vs,veno, rk, thd. Engager – es sk ts>[2nd last or last pick to see oppo heroes] this is the key player for bottom to control or be controlled. The right heroes chosen and fog of war play can make a big difference of the outcome of the game. catcher plays fog of war tactics making opponent dun dare to come out to farm. Controller stays in lane to control opponent using stun locks or multiple nukes. Engager does both but does less running den both of the other types.


{LATE – KILL OR CONTROL}<viper qop rk skele king>[varies in order of pick] farmer to aid the other lanemate to either kill or harass to enable himself to farm up.




Gameplay Visualization –

Early aggressiveness within lanes ensure lane advantage.
Farm up as fast as possible.
Core items up initate push try to down a rax or 2 as early as possible.
Aggro catching to ensure lvl difference try to avoid engages.
Late backdooring.



Warding –

NA buys obs top at start wards rune and nc spawn negate pulling, bottom buys sentry if u decide u nid to pull creeps, otherwise obs.
Everytime anyone goes back to base, if no wards are up late heroes get 1 obs. Other heroes ensure 1 obs 1 sentry. Remember, wards before core items for heroes other den late gamers.



Gankers / Runner’s intensity.

NA – extreme running (as early as lvl 4 or 5, stabilize lane to run)
CATCHERS – moderate running
ENGAGERS – moderate running core items first.
CONTROLLERS – minimal running, stay in lane to control all the way, sometimes maybe jungling or pulling a little.






Come on guys post ur strats here or discuss anything about drafts!! Keep this thread alive!

princeed
09-12-2007, 12:07 AM
{CONTROLLER/RUNNER} verus {CONTROLLER/CATCHER OR ENGAGER}

wat's the difference between runner and catcher o.0

ace[lily]
09-12-2007, 02:45 PM
wat about razor? where does he goes?

SG_Lancelot
09-12-2007, 05:20 PM
tis strat hard to put in razor coz late hero nid escape mechanism so dat he wun die from ganks if his lane controller was running.

xsomebodyx
09-12-2007, 08:45 PM
yea most ppl would like to put lr with someone who can guard him like omniknight ^^

ace[lily]
09-13-2007, 01:02 PM
yea most ppl would like to put lr with someone who can guard him like omniknight ^^


er... but i see lots of people playing 3 1 1 wit razor soloing... is tat a good or a bad move?

ZyHinoX
09-13-2007, 04:30 PM
dont think its good.. abit risky with razor solo. one simple combo can own razor already.

ace[lily]
09-13-2007, 07:02 PM
dont think its good.. abit risky with razor solo. one simple combo can own razor already.


ya... but what heros goes well wit razor?

sheny_1
09-13-2007, 07:40 PM
actually .. hmm... as abover posters said..


most pple like to pair lr with a "healer"/"support" heros..

i myself tried drafting lr and loa b4.. works rather well.

xsomebodyx
09-13-2007, 07:58 PM
yup, we must remember the fact that most agi late gamers suck really bad at early game because of their low hp and lack of defensive spells. These are the ones that are really item dependent and their performance in early game will really affect how they perform in late game.

For eg. a controlled LR in mid who receives constant ganking from heroes like sandking or NA, versus an LR who has been free farming for like god-knows-how-long-retards-let-him-farm.

Which is why people tend to pair late gamers with someone who can guard them, lategamer + loa/omni/warlock.. yea you get the picture.

ace[lily]
09-13-2007, 09:23 PM
o... ok.. so razor wit enchat? will it work?

YupiGummyBear
09-13-2007, 09:31 PM
razor solo is good!! hp regen aura + good movespeed + good attack speed!

roar roar!

GenGen.
09-13-2007, 11:58 PM
=) Razor solo is noob... -.- no stun no slow no huge aoe :D Hes a bit of everyone but not really anywhere...

Anyway you can put razor in a triplet lane.. ((: SK VENO RAZOR...Similar to SK VENO FV ((:

ZyHinoX
09-14-2007, 07:24 PM
razor with shadow priest woo hoo~. anyw razor can solo mid actually. but its very very risky

SG_Lancelot
09-14-2007, 11:39 PM
razor with shadow priest woo hoo~. anyw razor can solo mid actually. but its very very risky

i wouldnt say lr soloing mid as risky. u must think of the various situations. lemme list dem out.

1.) you(lr) are scourge and u are soloing mid. u HAVE a beastmaster pulling mid creep as well as a constant hawk upslope. combined wif a nice roar + wild axe + quillboar slowing and finishing off with chain lightning. i wouldnt say tis situation as risky.

2.) your team drafts gankers dat can catch very early. picture a venomancer and a NA on your side. u solo mid with razor. with warding from lvl 1, u have extremely strong rune control, coupled with NA and veno running arnd the map. in this situation, the opponent at mid will definitely think twice about going that bit aggro against you. dun forget if u successly kill off the opponent mid solo at least twice, ur level advantage against the opponent will decrease the risk to the maximum.

3.) wheres the risk if uve got BB on ur side. LOL! =P




anyway, enuf of the sidetrack. anyone willing to share the strangest heroes uve ever seen in a draft game? or maybe let out some strategies in laning these seldom-seen-heroes?

sheny_1
09-15-2007, 01:34 AM
i always tot.. solo ominknight would be fun..

well omin solo works only against.. spell caster anyways....

i tried rk solo mid too :))

SG_Lancelot
09-15-2007, 11:05 AM
warlock solo against ur omniknight u cui

lock spellcaster leh

sheny_1
09-15-2007, 01:15 PM
wl solo omin arh actually... repel works wonder agains last word if u hav the mana to cast repel la

ace[lily]
09-15-2007, 01:54 PM
i see before es solo mid...

Destinyz
09-15-2007, 05:15 PM
sandking solo mid against razor n pwned the razor dip dip w/o ganks o_o

xsomebodyx
09-16-2007, 12:27 AM
wl solo omin arh actually... repel works wonder agains last word if u hav the mana to cast repel la

warlock poke = pain ^^

sh0h0ku
09-17-2007, 02:48 AM
wheres viper,sf,silencer,lich?

xsomebodyx
09-17-2007, 09:30 AM
not to mention pugna, visage, BRISTLEBACK, URSA.

Mee Soto
09-17-2007, 04:48 PM
is bone really a good pick for drafts?one gem / wards and hes *poof* :/

ruixiang
09-17-2007, 05:20 PM
bone is gd if u manage to kill lor... imagine a rich bone and ur opp poor until no boots even ... *DREAM* *DREAM*

SG_Lancelot
09-18-2007, 04:19 PM
waddoyu guys tink of bristleback?

ive seen many try a mid solo bristleback but for me, i dun tink its very effective.

comments plz!

jl89
10-01-2007, 08:39 AM
o.o why do we bother about strat so much when it all comes down to knowing what to do

arairiez
10-01-2007, 07:23 PM
waddoyu guys tink of bristleback?

ive seen many try a mid solo bristleback but for me, i dun tink its very effective.

comments plz!

I think its quite good, it all boils down to the user and strategy employed. Many drafts put BB as their centerpiece due to high EHP with killer abilities (in other word, t3h IMBA) By having BB soloing mid, a good user can play hum (avoid confrontation) hug tower, farm, lvl and be happy. Once hood, heart/radiance, BB becomes quite hard to stop, hence soloing mid allows BB to reach that state quickly and safely

YupiGummyBear
10-02-2007, 04:40 PM
chen solo mid! penitence test + good dmg and animation! i wonder why ppl use him as pure support usually.. he got potential be late gamer!

dragon knight oso can solo mid ~ !

arairiez
10-02-2007, 07:38 PM
chen solo mid! penitence test + good dmg and animation! i wonder why ppl use him as pure support usually.. he got potential be late gamer!

dragon knight oso can solo mid ~ !

Where got potential to be late gamer? -.- if dun use as pure support then really waste his potential..

1 skill slow + increase dmg
1 skill tele team mate back fountain (zomg)
1 skill can get 3 stunner creeps mass disable
ulti can heal all team mates...

not support den wad? -.-

ps: and i rather chen jungle, quite effective and allows one more guy to solo.