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d0minic
10-24-2007, 07:03 PM
"Question: What event in the middle of a DotA game do players from both sides hate most?

Answer: <player> has left the game.

Why do the players hate this? Why are leavers loathed so much? How about those laggers who often get disconnected? We invoke Psychology 101 to resolve this. Sad but true. Human nature makes us curse, groan or sigh when we see those red letters flash in the screen. Why? Originally, the game is a 5-on-5 match. With Player X out, the game is now 4 versus 5.

Case 1: You are the teammate of X
Sub case 1:

If your team has the advantage, say inner towers of Scourge are down already while 2 of your outer towers are still up, you would probably smile a cocky smile and say, what the heck? Those guys are noobs anyway. Then you will press ENTER and type, carry on! Well, sometimes, the Sentinel boys, who were already winning, could carry their victory till the end. And you will probably say once you hit mega creeps, OMG, 4v5? You still lost? NOOBS! And somewhere out there, five prides just got pricked. But hey, you won the freaking game! But, wait, hold on, it is not always like this. What if this guy who left is your star player? And with him gone, the Scourge starts whooping your asses to high heaven? What will you say in the end? You will just whine and whine, saying, you just won because <Tinker> left. But does that make you feel any better? You still lost. On record, you lost.

ANSWER: You are either feel cocky or shaken. Depends on your self-confidence.
Sub case 2:

If your team is on the losing end, it is another loss for you guys. You will call out, GG or RM? Fine, fine. But hey, what if you are all late gamers and you know you can still snag a win if you just work hard enough, capitalizing on the drunkenness of your opponents who are already tasting the victory that really could be yours? Well, most people would give up at this point in time. But good players do not. Are you a good player? You do not have to tell us. By good, I do not mean good in the game itself. Your attitude counts as well. So, ask yourself. Are you a good player or not? Would you give up or not? Of course if the enemy is on a pure pawnage, it would be polite to call GG already? but mehn, there is something wrong with your DotA skills if so early in the game, your team is already pawned over and over again!

ANSWER: You would probably just call it GG. But if you are a martyr or a masochist, you might just win.
Case 2: You are enemy of the team of X

okay, this is what I call the truth hurts

Sub case 1:

So you are winning. The enemy is hit by another big loss. So what? It is a clear win for your team. BUT now, your foes have an excuse for losing. You hate this. I know why. You hate excuses. I know why. Pride. nuff said.

Sub case 2:
You are losing. The enemy lost a player. OH YEA. You can now turn the tables. And eventually, yes, with your pro-ness, you did! But someone from across the street would comment, you noob, you just won because X left! OUCH. As I have said, the truth hurts. But is this the truth? We would not know because he left! But again, excuses. And again, it is your Pride that is killing you.

So that is it. Leavers are those mighty monsters who prick your pride till your entire soul gushes out. Case 1, your pride is challenged and put to a test, Case 2, it is insulted? It is like being said, you are an ugly ____ face-to-face when you know you are not.

But how can we deal with this? Well, raise your EQ and you will do fine. But that will only solve Case 2. Coz in Case 2, whatever happens, the enemy has excuses with them because they are the ones who lost a teammate. Just deal with it. Endure it. But please tell them, if I had lost a teammate, I would still win. That will make the difference.

They may scoff at you. Ignore them. Just show them what you can do."

Source: [GG-Game] (http://www.gg-game.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=25862&extra=page%3D1)


Hope this article will change most mindsets in SG DotA-ers.

ruixiang
10-24-2007, 07:20 PM
i feel dat wad tis article is saying isnt true totally.

SkySkySky
10-24-2007, 07:25 PM
did you actually go and analyse that?

TruE
10-24-2007, 07:42 PM
someone summarise it into 10 word please

df01
10-24-2007, 08:08 PM
someone summarise it into 10 word please

Don't-leave-games-ever-even-if-you-feed-like-NutZ.

10 words omg just nice!

YupiGummyBear
10-24-2007, 08:23 PM
quite true... but (the reason you get angry) really depends on why u're playing the game too.. to
win?
trash noobs?
for leisure?
piss someone off?

lol but whatever the reason, leavers spoil the game. but its sad to know no matter how unhappy u are with leavers, u have to live with it. as long as theres the quit button there are bound to be leavers.

SkySkySky
10-24-2007, 08:25 PM
shadowfrench should make something to prevent people from leaving instead of MH lols.

iCy
10-24-2007, 08:47 PM
lol the worst type of leavers are those that call for solo, feed fb den leave><

if dont wan leaver then play clan/draft match! =p

YupiGummyBear
10-24-2007, 08:52 PM
lol the worst type of leavers are those that call for solo, feed fb den leave><

LOL. I just played a pub like that. He fed and fed and then we whined "stop feeding". He got fed up and decided to feed even more. Guess what... he didnt leave the game. I did. rofl. ><

oops.

Maki
10-24-2007, 09:10 PM
Imperfection resides in humanity since e very 1st generation , none can deny its existence . But understanding and acceptance varies from person to person . Await a day for e recoded dna generic string or do it urself someday .

HeRo`
10-24-2007, 09:15 PM
Imperfection resides in humanity since e very 1st generation , none can deny its existence . But understanding and acceptance varies from person to person . Await a day for e recoded dna generic string or do it urself someday .

Well said, I totally agree to it.

KilluaxKillua
10-24-2007, 09:22 PM
leavers suxs wen u are using a farming hero...or late gamer....u farm so much...dey leave rm...= sian....BUT if u are the 1 catching and dey leave wen u catch dem too much...den its a totally diff case imo ^^

d0minic
10-24-2007, 09:33 PM
lol anyway the article i took from actually wasnt talking about how such people exist. it was actually from a guide that teaches how to micro manage leavers.

but i just found this part quite meaningful

ZyHinoX
10-24-2007, 09:34 PM
ya if u catch till sibei song keep owning and they leave, u will a sense of satisfaction that u make oppo leave. but if u farmer u finally gonna farm up ur gosu items and rdy to pwn but all opponent leave.. u will most probably go $!&@$^!@

KilluaxKillua
10-24-2007, 09:36 PM
yea ! i totally agree lolx...u get so happy u farmed up...and wen oppo sees yur item dey go wtf! look at XXX de item...sure lose le la...lets alt qq...

YYY has left the game.
=/

anywae i never really read the whole article...the red is very 'pierce eye' ( ci yan) =/ i only read the 10 word summary..well...the first 9 words i mean

SkySkySky
10-24-2007, 09:40 PM
nvm, just tell yourself. YAY they leave i WIN hahaha. ok, i'm being lame.

KilluaxKillua
10-24-2007, 09:42 PM
haha steve...dun bluff...everytym we play gt leavers...all of us sure go wtf...banned!

SkySkySky
10-24-2007, 09:44 PM
i say that to scare other ppl that are remaining. they lose i happy . WHAHAHA

KilluaxKillua
10-24-2007, 09:45 PM
u are sick...sicko! :p lolx

SkySkySky
10-24-2007, 09:47 PM
laughter is the best medicine . =D

SG_Lancelot
10-24-2007, 11:59 PM
ya if u catch till sibei song keep owning and they leave, u will a sense of satisfaction that u make oppo leave. but if u farmer u finally gonna farm up ur gosu items and rdy to pwn but all opponent leave.. u will most probably go $!&@$^!@

omfg its zyhinox!

i hate leavers but hey!

hu dare to step out and swear to god dat u havent left a single pubby game?




(mr. lance strikes back at zyhinox)

freshie
10-25-2007, 12:26 AM
Cont! Stay! No RR! I love 1v5!

Astatine
10-25-2007, 09:19 AM
omfg its zyhinox!

i hate leavers but hey!

hu dare to step out and swear to god dat u havent left a single pubby game?




(mr. lance strikes back at zyhinox)

My one time is when MC stole my kill when I was already damn sian. My PA blinkstrike shadowstrike the guy then he down to 1 hit left and I walked away to let the poison kill, then stupid MC blink strike with his SA and killed him. I so irritated I ragequit.

The rest is all.. um. DC. :(

w4ndeRz-
10-25-2007, 11:10 AM
I somehow rather have a leaver than a stupid lagger who has the stupid box popping up every 10 seconds or whatever and you just can't drop the guy. That's worse than irritating.

RuLeZanG
10-25-2007, 01:20 PM
i never left a pubbie game before...well in my ZanG tag la...even if its 1v5 ill stay behind micro the heroes...even if i cant win might as well give the opposition hell b4 i lose...most pubbie are pretty funny as they like to scold the opposition when they're winning but shut up when they lose...if i meet some pubbie who wins becoz my team left ill prb ask for a 1v1 or ask him to rejoin...

SG_Lancelot
10-25-2007, 02:34 PM
i never left a pubbie game before...well in my ZanG tag la...even if its 1v5 ill stay behind micro the heroes...even if i cant win might as well give the opposition hell b4 i lose...most pubbie are pretty funny as they like to scold the opposition when they're winning but shut up when they lose...if i meet some ******* pubbie who wins becoz my team left ill prb ask for a 1v1 or ask him to rejoin...

guo ran shi ying xiong hao han

ZyHinoX
10-25-2007, 02:41 PM
lance i join ur banana clan

d0minic
10-25-2007, 04:40 PM
i never left a pubbie game before...well in my ZanG tag la...even if its 1v5 ill stay behind micro the heroes...even if i cant win might as well give the opposition hell b4 i lose...most pubbie are pretty funny as they like to scold the opposition when they're winning but shut up when they lose...if i meet some ******* pubbie who wins becoz my team left ill prb ask for a 1v1 or ask him to rejoin...

Sorry please refrain from vulgarities. Warned

RizE
10-25-2007, 11:02 PM
Omg. Clan ZanG. A Veteran in B.Net =D
Long Long Time no see a memberof Clan ZanG.

And Yes Leaver Sux. =X

SkySkySky
10-26-2007, 09:14 AM
Omg. Clan ZanG. A Veteran in B.Net =D
Long Long Time no see a memberof Clan ZanG.

And Yes Leaver Sux. =X
we got no ' yuan fen ' with you.

RuLeZanG
10-26-2007, 04:51 PM
ouch...they used to be more lenient...actually we still kinda play quite often...juz nobody goes on dotasg cept me and blood...

SkySkySky
10-26-2007, 09:00 PM
Durian also have lah. just that he never post.

B|a h x 3 `
10-28-2007, 03:53 PM
lol the worst type of leavers are those that call for solo, feed fb den leave><

if dont wan leaver then play clan/draft match! =p
in draft match oso have alot leavers , worst still gt custom kick host =.=

YupiGummyBear
10-29-2007, 11:32 AM
in draft match oso have alot leavers , worst still gt custom kick host =.=

looks like its time to quit dota and study.