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InT_fatalroyal
11-06-2007, 01:11 PM
(Tinker)
Boush has been educated in the most advanced goblin technology. These mechanical systems allow him to damage his enemies from a distance, while keeping himself relatively safe. He can also upgrade his systems to allow his weapons to fire quickly. A true demonstration of the power of knowledge.


(Story)
Tinker were once Leader of the terrorist in iraq, he has a bunch of unit which is the suicide bomber name goblin techies. Tinker have armed alot of weapon with him, those he wanted to kill have no chance of survival. After Tinker killed alot of innocent life, they have turn to vengeful spirit, whenever tinker feel asleep, vengeful spirit haunt him at his dreams and so tinker cannot sleep well. Until tinker cannot tahan so he beg for shadow priest for help,the shadow priest told him he got cursed by some spirit and the curse cannot be remove until he do something good. So tinker stopp killing innocent and start helping in community secretly seen he kill so many life and so alot police and bounty hunter hunting for him. So tinker feel hard to help others when so many people want to hunt him down. One day, the god of sentinel Keeper Of The Light and Zeus appeared!! They offer tinker to join the sentinel to fight off evil from the scourge, so tinker accepted thier offer and order his troop the goblin techies to join sentinel. Day by day Tinker feel the curse is lifted, and so tiner have no regrets of joining sentinel and doing good things.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (Skill)

Hero Abilities

Laser
Fires an intense beam of light at a target, dealing damage and blinding all in the area for 9 seconds. Deals precise damage.

Level 1 - 80 damage, 10% miss.
Level 2 - 160 damage, 15% miss.
Level 3 - 240 damage, 20% miss.
Level 4 - 320 damage, 25% miss.

Cooldown: 14 seconds.

Level 1: 95 mana, 14 sec cooldown.
Level 2: 120 mana, 14 sec cooldown.
Level 3: 145 mana, 14 sec cooldown.
Level 4: 170 mana, 14 sec cooldown.



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Heat Seeking Missile
The Tinker fires a rocket at the nearest visible enemy hero. Range of 2500.

Level 1 - 100 damage.
Level 2 - 175 damage.
Level 3 - 250 damage, 2 targets.
Level 4 - 325 damage, 2 targets.

Cooldown: 25 seconds.

Level 1: 120 mana, 25 sec cooldown.
Level 2: 140 mana, 25 sec cooldown.
Level 3: 160 mana, 25 sec cooldown.
Level 4: 180 mana, 25 sec cooldown.



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March of the Machines
Calls in hordes of robotic goblins to destroy your enemies.

Level 1 - 16 damage/goblin.
Level 2 - 24 damage/goblin.
Level 3 - 32 damage/goblin.
Level 4 - 40 damage/goblin.

Cooldown: 35 seconds.

Level 1: 145 mana, 35 sec cooldown.
Level 2: 150 mana, 35 sec cooldown.
Level 3: 165 mana, 35 sec cooldown.
Level 4: 190 mana, 35 sec cooldown.



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Rearm
Instantly reloads the Tinker's weapons.

Level 1 - 3 seconds to rearm.
Level 2 - 2 seconds to rearm.
Level 3 - 1 seconds to rearm.

Level 1: 150 mana, 0 sec cooldown.
Level 2: 250 mana, 0 sec cooldown.
Level 3: 350 mana, 0 sec cooldown.




Description: Use Tinker 3rd skill and farm, buy boot of travel so when no mana can teleport to base, after that use rearm and teleport to farm. Keep on doing it until you got guinsoo, use hex and rearm and hex when your allied is attacking enemy hero. Tinker no need to buy hp, if he havent got a guinsoo to help team mate, he can use rocket and rearm lv1(low mana cost) and rocket behide his team and doesnt have to take any damage. Hope you enjoy!

TruE
11-06-2007, 03:27 PM
wow. thanks. didnt know that tinker was so good.

SweetyGaL(
11-06-2007, 03:29 PM
all hero nid abit of hp bah, how can dun nid to buy hp.. aleast a vit booster? can form manta oso..

jl89
11-06-2007, 03:31 PM
sarcasm sia o.O int dont let ppl make fun of u!!!!! make fun of ppl!

InT_fatalroyal
11-06-2007, 05:32 PM
lol, manta

SkySkySky
11-06-2007, 05:35 PM
lol. this type of build is so common. even manta also got ppl play. but tinker needs to have mana .

InT_fatalroyal
11-06-2007, 05:39 PM
Buy 2 point booster got mana got hp.

GenGen.
11-06-2007, 07:22 PM
Ur that guy with the blog full of "Makeshift" strategies right? :D

SkySkySky
11-06-2007, 07:41 PM
INT maybe you can include some strat from your blog into here lol.

deafmay
11-06-2007, 07:43 PM
imm sure this will win the hero guide contest.
very nice and detailed
could be improved if you added a replay of you owning with tinker
keep it coming :)

SkySkySky
11-06-2007, 07:46 PM
imm sure this will win the hero guide contest.
very nice and detailed
could be improved if you added a replay of you owning with tinker
keep it coming :)
you sound so nice

df01
11-06-2007, 07:47 PM
lol, manta

very illuminating.
you'd wonder why people are actually doing the same to your strategies. ^^

you'd do better explaining why manta isn't a good build for tinker.

just fyi, there is/was a premiumed guide with IHCS(i think) replays on DA.com on how manta tinker is effectively played.

on topic, theres nothing unique about your build since this is just about how anyone plays tinker.In addition, there is no formatting, no reasoning for item build and a serious lack of depth in your in-game strategy. I hope you're not submitting this in hopes of winning the guide competition, or at least it is not the final edition of your "guide".

SkySkySky
11-06-2007, 07:48 PM
manta tinker is cool. but eat mana

InT_fatalroyal
11-06-2007, 08:22 PM
I try add in some quality like pic. And those dun like my build can create your own manta tinker strategy in a new thread

SkySkySky
11-06-2007, 08:34 PM
we mean your build is cool. but there's this manta build that's cool too. anyway your build is one for the best strat you give so far, i think.

InT_fatalroyal
11-06-2007, 08:38 PM
still got alot of strategy in my sleeve.

SkySkySky
11-06-2007, 08:42 PM
well, then here's the chance to display your talents and win yourself a voucher.

Ironfisto
11-06-2007, 08:47 PM
at least hes brave to post his opinions..

Heaven
11-06-2007, 08:54 PM
IMO overall playstyle,ganking,tp-assist,mass kills,perceptive move on map,skills,interpretation of good user tinker > Item builds.

Is players against good players,items are nth.

Everytime a heroes's attribute when added should be improvise according to his role play,task,overall game play,and opponent's heroes picks and play style to suit best in the battlefield.

df01
11-06-2007, 09:09 PM
let's make this clear. ^^

1) I was, in my right, posting something to help you improve your "guide", and you should have expected criticisms, so your "those who don't like my build can go their manta build" was unnecessary. If you don't like people to post negative comments, or post constructive criticism - request for the mods to lock this thread, or state clearly that you accept praises only.

i only lol manta nia, got say bad?

2) "lol, manta", correct me if im wrong, literally meaning Laugh Out Loud Manta, implying that manta, as an item for tinker is somewhat funny to you. Unless Manta itself is a joke that I don't understand, otherwise, you are by simple assumption, saying that manta is bad for tinker. Similarly, i can say "ROFL" to your thread, and you would normally assume that im laughing at your strategy.

3) With reference to the above point, you did not explain why manta is bad for tinker and I was suggesting that you make some constructive comments instead of "lol, manta" which is simply senseless, not to mention unnecessary.

GL. ^^

freshie
11-06-2007, 09:09 PM
lol, manta

too bad you are new to dota, if not you would have seen what is real imba with rearm lvl 3 with no mana cost.

manta fight, rearm, fight, when hit, goblin, hex(in case you ask me tinker how hex, i am talking about guinsoo) rearm, manta again and repeat your cycle. This strategy is mainly why rearm is nerfed by having mana cost, and also perma hex.

Btw to add to your new discovery of tinker bot rearm goblin farming tactics, you can also rearm and tele back to fountain heal up rearm and tele back to farm again. If team is pushing 1 lane, you can do this to push 2 lanes, heal up and mid with teammates to push 1 lane while the other 2 lanes with big creep wave pushing in, good timing will defintely break the other 2 base towers, even your main push fails.

sorry to the others in this forum for posting such an out-dated strategy. I am sure there are alot of tinker pros out there with better tactics. I hardly play tinker sorry.

/bow.

freshie
11-06-2007, 09:13 PM
still got alot of strategy in my sleeve.

thx dude, you never fail to make my day.

Ironfisto
11-06-2007, 09:20 PM
at least hes brave to post his opinions..

d0minic
11-06-2007, 09:34 PM
I think i prefer sensible criticism rather than sarcasm.

InT_fatalroyal
11-06-2007, 09:39 PM
df always post alot fei hua, cant bother to read..

SkySkySky
11-06-2007, 11:50 PM
df post something nice. something with clear and good explanations with good examples to support his statement

KilluaxKillua
11-06-2007, 11:52 PM
agreed wif skyskysky...int...dun always take every criticisim as being sacastic or trying to make trouble....ppl grow and learn from criticisim...df is juz posting his view and requesting that u explain in more depth y manta is not a gd choice for thinker...which most thinker users buy..

since you are so anti-manta. there must be reasons behind to support your stand. so y not post these reasons and convince us that manta is not a gd choice for thinker?instead of flaming df,saying he post alot of fei hua....

o another point to add....if u cant be bothered to read, hw come u noe hes talking fei hua =_=

SkySkySky
11-06-2007, 11:55 PM
yeap, your build is not bad, but common. PAPA is looking for something unique, cute, weird yet practical and solid and powerful build. something like things will suck away PAPA's arcade voucher.

KilluaxKillua
11-07-2007, 12:41 AM
yeap, your build is not bad, but common. PAPA is looking for something unique, cute, weird yet practical and solid and powerful build. something like things will suck away PAPA's arcade voucher.
huh i dun get yur last sentence...typo? lolx

faded
11-07-2007, 01:29 AM
This build isn't something new right, had been used since long ago

InT_fatalroyal
11-07-2007, 02:20 AM
Ok i show my way of view. For example like sandking stun and want use earthquake or maiden frostbite and use freezing field on Tinker, and no allied near Tinker. So its best getting guinsoo rather than a manta. I dun understand why tinker buy manta coz low atk spd, low damage, no slow skill when used manta (Phantom Assassin with manta is better am i right?)

freshie
11-07-2007, 04:02 AM
yeap, your build is not bad, but common. PAPA is looking for something unique, cute, weird yet practical and solid and powerful build. something like things will suck away PAPA's arcade voucher.

ya, maybe a tinker with a build of bot + 4 hearts + assault. Push base be the 1st to go in, tank and absorb most or even all the nuke and damage, get out and tele back to base, while your teammates clear up the enemies, then after heal up rearm and come back stand in front to get ready to tank again.

just some noob ideas of mine anyway.

dRaGoN
11-07-2007, 10:53 AM
well i'm not trying to be offensive or something but i think your combos or play style are just either too common or how do i say it?wishful thinking maybe...btw frost bite can be canceled from manta...coz frostbite is made from entangling roots in terms of the worldedit view...

btw freshie,thats a fresh idea but it will be better to get bkb so you can on it and tp back without getting stunned =)

arairiez
11-07-2007, 04:04 PM
afterall is his strategy, by suggesting other builds, that won't be his strategy anymore right? Whats more this is his strategy and he has his rights to accept suggestion or not. When he doesnt accept your suggest doesnt mean he is wrong or narrow minded or whatever. You you want to suggest some alternative build and die die want him to accept ur suggestion, why not go post a whole new strategy under your name?

dRaGoN
11-07-2007, 11:20 PM
lol relax man its just a comment,i already stated no offense whatsoever...
btw i support you as well! member of the gosu banana fanclub?

streamofhonour
11-08-2007, 12:23 AM
lol at least hes brave enough to post his guides yea (sorry for the post in ur recruiting thread)this shows that hes daring enough to post up guides for us. Personally, i would prefer a wholelength guide lols but gogo wishing for more guides from you. Oh yea manta tinker is gay as mass rearm of manta can make tinker perpertually confusing and that mana burning is too much of a pain in the ass for opponents. the mana problem is solved by using BoT rearm BoT to quickly push lanes. Manta is also used to push the lanes. Tinker can push very quickly,not kill very quickly(to me,anyone may point out anything if im wrong?)

InT_fatalroyal
11-08-2007, 03:50 PM
I added some guide and headline in the 1st post of the strategy, please do enjoy and vote me 1! XD

arairiez
11-08-2007, 04:53 PM
well done haha i like ut tinker story lol

SkySkySky
11-08-2007, 04:53 PM
grats to the enormous improvement in your english.

dRaGoN
11-08-2007, 11:12 PM
somehow skyskysky's comments are more like....how do you say it....=) starts with the letter "s" btw

arairiez
11-08-2007, 11:13 PM
no la its true!

xabo
11-08-2007, 11:49 PM
Ok i show my way of view. For example like sandking stun and want use earthquake or maiden frostbite and use freezing field on Tinker, and no allied near Tinker. So its best getting guinsoo rather than a manta. I dun understand why tinker buy manta coz low atk spd, low damage, no slow skill when used manta (Phantom Assassin with manta is better am i right?)

the reason why people get manta. is not for atk spd, low damage, or slow skill. the reason is tinker can rearm and manta anytime he wants.which means no COOLDOWN MANTA! so he can become something like a fighter tinker build. ^^

kensonex
11-09-2007, 03:03 AM
tinker is buy refresher one,it helps tinker to save the trouble of learning ulti and get to learn 3 stats!!! somemore u can dun nid wait for tinker to play wif his toys for 3 secs b4 shooting another two chi ba boom

freshie
11-09-2007, 03:45 AM
tinker is buy refresher one,it helps tinker to save the trouble of learning ulti and get to learn 3 stats!!! somemore u can dun nid wait for tinker to play wif his toys for 3 secs b4 shooting another two chi ba boom

wrong, refresher is to refresh re-arm, then use re-arm to refresh refresher, IMBA!:D

freshie
11-09-2007, 03:47 AM
i think we vote him for the win, so many replies, this guy sure get all the love and attention.

arairiez
11-09-2007, 08:08 AM
Mmr INT ftw!

dRaGoN
11-09-2007, 12:41 PM
NO! i vote only for banana people!

InT_fatalroyal
11-09-2007, 02:00 PM
Thanks for all your support, please vote for me at this link http://www.dotasg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1744

SG_Lancelot
11-09-2007, 02:03 PM
zzz he leading in votes?? people plz read all the other guides and make ur wise decision. deres a prize at stake dun juz vote anyhow thx.

p.s. visit my luna moonfang guide

arairiez
11-09-2007, 02:06 PM
how can u say this? you questioning his popularity?

p.s. visit my Tidehunter guide! got entertainment value!

InT_fatalroyal
11-09-2007, 03:51 PM
Vote for the terrorist!

butcheradomination
11-09-2007, 04:12 PM
Lawls this guide competition thing is getting funny , most prolly tinky will win ... T_T

arairiez
11-09-2007, 04:44 PM
i think Ant will win sia =/ i wanna win!

butcheradomination
11-09-2007, 05:32 PM
Maybe you will win lehs? lols , scarly a few new members vote you

Somanydynamos
11-10-2007, 01:29 AM
You call this a guide?
Might as well list down the skills of any other hero (which everyone already knows) and give a generic guide for items without explaining gameplay n stuff.
kthxbai

dRaGoN
11-11-2007, 11:40 AM
i think its only attention,for the word "love" maybe too much,becareful!championarsenal may post it on dotaportal that ppl who visits dotasg are g@ys!

KilluaxKillua
11-11-2007, 03:09 PM
hey.....lets not start the flaming shall we?peace...^^ but yea...this guide...90% description and 10% suggestion =/

xsomebodyx
11-11-2007, 03:13 PM
You call this a guide?
Might as well list down the skills of any other hero (which everyone already knows) and give a generic guide for items without explaining gameplay n stuff.
kthxbai

2 words.


"Well said"


But let's chill yea. This thing is for fun. No harm intended ^^

DERRICK
11-11-2007, 04:17 PM
hey.....lets not start the flaming shall we?peace...^^ but yea...this guide...90% description and 10% suggestion =/
agree !
peace !!
x)
flaming over tings is lame..
SO...PEACE !!!

StripperA
11-11-2007, 06:42 PM
tinker manta style strong