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dRaGoN
11-07-2007, 12:37 PM
dRaGoN's Guide on BristleBack

Table of contents
1)Preface
2)Statistics and History
3)Hero abillties
4)Items,spell builds
5)Explaination of spells
6)Explaination of items
7)Game play
7a)Early Game
7b)Mid Game
7c)Late Game
8)Conclusion


1)Preface

First of all,bristleback is a totally imbalance hero during the 6.37-6.48 period due to the totally thick armour and hp growth and not to mention his most useful spell,the bristleback.He is a very popular hero in draft matches due to his high movespeed and attackspeed(warpath),his heavy tanking abillites and a very useful quil spray that can easily own other heros early game due to the stacking of damage.The disadvangtage for bristleback is his low manapool during early game.

BristleBack has being my team's favourite draft hero quite recently and thats the reason why I'm posting this guide.
First time doing a guide flamers and comments are all welcomed =)



2)Statistics and History

According to in-game history-
A tried and true champion of his race, Rigwarl has unsuccessfully led the fight to defend his land against the onslaught of the Scourge. With his diminishing ranks and inability to hold the Scourge throne, he capitulated to the offer to join the Sentinel. With his bestial fighting style reliant on his natural attributes and ritualistic purges of natural accretions, he has become an unconventional ally in the fight.

History throughout the versions
Bristleback was nerfed around 6.48b by reducing his armour gain,his strength gain was further nerfed from 2.7 per level to 2.2 in version 6.47.During the 6.27b period,quil spray was something like a machine gun,cast it and you get sprays coming out in a line dealing 3/6/9/12 according to level of spell.His ultimate warpath was also changed due to a major bug in 6.27b in which once his warpath activates,nearly units(enemy and allies)gain the attackspeed and movespeed altogether.Warpath activates randomly during your attack in the past.

3)Hero abillties

Viscous Nasal Goo
Covers a target in snot, causing it to have reduced armor and movement speed. Casts on the same target are cumulative.
Lasts 5 seconds.

Level 1 - -1 armor, 20% and 3% slow a cast.
Level 2 - -1 armor, 20% and 6% slow a cast.
Level 3 - -2 armor, 20% and 9% slow a cast.
Level 4 - -2 armor, 20% and 12% slow a cast.

Cooldown: 1.5 seconds.

Level 1: 30 mana, 2 sec cooldown.
Level 2: 30 mana, 2 sec cooldown.
Level 3: 30 mana, 2 sec cooldown.
Level 4: 30 mana, 2 sec cooldown.

author's view-
This is a very useful spell mostly taken during mid games when bristleback has a decent mana pool,its stacking slow is a very powerful tool during ganks and catchers even during team battles.

Quill Spray
Sprays enemy units with quills dealing damage in a 650 AoE. Deals 30 extra damage everytime a unit is struck by a quill in the last 10 seconds. Damage type is physical.

Level 1 - 20 direct damage. 30 stacking damage.
Level 2 - 40 direct damage. 30 stacking damage.
Level 3 - 60 direct damage. 30 stacking damage.
Level 4 - 80 direct damage. 30 stacking damage.

Cooldown: 3 seconds.

Level 1: 30 mana, 3 sec cooldown.
Level 2: 35 mana, 3 sec cooldown.
Level 3: 40 mana, 3 sec cooldown.
Level 4: 45 mana, 3 sec cooldown.

author's view-
This is another very useful spell for bristleback early game,useful for farming as well as harassing,this spell will be further explained later on.


Bristleback
Rigwal covers his back in spines, causing him to take reduced damage. Automatically releases a quill spray whenever his rear receives 200 damage on his back.

Level 1 - 10% reduced from rear, 5% from sides.
Level 2 - 20% reduced from rear, 10% from sides.
Level 3 - 30% reduced from rear, 15% from sides.
Level 4 - 40% reduced from rear, 20% from sides.

Passive

author's view-
Most people view this as the most important spell for bristleback,the reason bristleback started appearing in draft matches was this reason,the imbalance amount of damage reduced and well as a quil spray every time he receives 200 damage on sides or rear.

Ultimate-

Warpath
Everytime Rigwarl casts a spell, he works himself into a fury. Movement and Attack speeds increase on repeated spell casts. Lasts 10 seconds. Stacks up to 4 times.

Level 1 - 30% IAS/5% MS Base + 5% IAS/1% MS Stack.
Level 2 - 40% IAS/7% MS Base + 10% IAS/2% MS Stack.
Level 3 - 50% IAS/10% MS Base + 15% IAS/3% MS Stack.

Passive

author's view-
Stacking movespeed and attackspeed everytime you spam your easily spammable quil spray,what else can you ask for?


4)Items,spell builds


Spell build according to level
1)Quill spray
2)BristleBack
3)Quill spray
4)BristleBack
5)Quill spray
6)Warpath
7)QuillSpray
8)BristleBack
9)BristleBack
10)Bonus
11)Warpath
12-14)Bonus
15)Viscous Nasal Goo
16)Warpath
17-22)Bonus
23-25)Viscous Nasal Goo

Item Build-

First of all buy 2 clarity potions and tangos as well as a animal courier.

then Early Game
1)Bottle
2)Bottle
Then form a crow
3)Get a Helm of IronWill +
4)2x Ring Of Reg +
5)Planes walker cloak = Hood Of defiance
6)Boots of speed

Mid Game
1)Aim instantly for a Reaver +
2)Vit Booster +
3)Hearts recipes
4)Boots of Travel (If possible)

Late Game(Remember to sell 1 of your bottle here)
1)Another Hearts or Sacred Relic
2)Radiance recipe
3)Quite unlikely the match will reach this stage,but if so get a Satanic.





5)Explaination of spells


Quite alot of people always ask this question,why get Viscous Nasal Goo at level 15 and not after you maxed out quill spray and bristleback.

The reason is because of bristleback's low mana pool,therefore getting some bonus will help alot,secondly bristleback is suppose to be a farmer which means you are to farm nearly for the whole game and get your items out so you can tank properly.

Getting Quill Spray early on is obvious and playing against decent players who can deny,player often find themselves unable to farm partly also due to ranged heros who prefers harass over farm.From here on quill spray can do the job,stand back and wait for the creep to reach the correct amount of hp,then use spray.Although this is hard,training or decent players can easily make this look like a cakewalk

The rest of the spell build is quite simple to understand,Movespeed,attackspeed and tanking abillties




6)Explaination of items


Another commonly seen question of my item build is why 2 bottles is'nt 1 enough?
BristleBack is suppose to be a farmer,so your levels should be higher than normal players = you can't afford to go back to the fountain.So with your crow in hand (Computer actually) give your empty bottles to it so it can refill it for you.Another reason is that BristleBack is able to do double ancient spawn and kill it but to do it at level 9,you MUST have 2 bottles.

Hood of Defiance-
This is kinda obviously and i don't even know why i am bothering to explain it,perhaps maths would be better!

Finger of death level 1 = 500 Damage

Example some idiotic lion fingers your backside(no offense to people who do this)

500 damage convert to = 100%

100% - BristleBack (40%) and = 60%
300 damage left right?

with hood of defiance

300 damage convert to 100%

100% - Hood of defiance (30%) = 70%

70% now = to 210 damage

then hero armour Further reduces magical attacks by 25%

210 damage convert to 100%

100% - Hero armour(25%) = 75%

Convert back to Damage points = 150.75 damage

Nice amount of damage huh? :Banane05:

Hearts-
More Health Points,More Health Points = Thicker than Roshan

Radiance-

Why not make use of your high attack speed and movespeed to deal more damage? Burning AoE effect + quill spray is painful you know?

Satanic-
Hearts give strength but no lifesteal,when you have the damage,why not go on a rampage with a 25% lifesteal?



Game play

Nothing much on this section already,since the other places already explains what you should do but enough chit chatting,lets move on...

7a)Early Game- lv 1 - 4 Stay on bottom lane with another hero (at this part of the game,DO NOT LURE CREEP)

lv 5 - 9 ok now's the hardest part to explain,but you guys should have noticed that bottom creep spawning area right?At the 3 spawning spots,go to the middle of the right creep spawning side,you should see only a layer of trees spreading the area,use your tango to chop 1 tree down and return to the middle of the right creep spawning side,use quill spray there at the 55 second mark,then neutral creeps should be lured to come attack you from top and bottom,now just hold position there and use quill spray(at this part the bottom creeps should spawn again since the first wave was lured out and neutral creeps spawns every min) Farm like this till level 9,after finishing off the creeps,move to another spot to use potions so that the creeps will spawn again at the other minute mark.
(PS, i didn't know how to upload screen shots although i have taken them already,i know your eyes hurt but bear with me!)

7b)Mid Game- lv 9 - 13 At this part of the game,go to the ancient creep spawning area(you MUST have 2 bottle at this time) at the 55 second mark,use quill spray and lure the creep away till you can't see the ancient creep spawning area,move back to the spawning area once the creeps chasing you returns,you should see 2 spawns of ancient creeps there...DO NOT FIGHT THEM,i repeat DO NOT FIGHT THEM,just keep using quill spray on them and only allow them to attack your backside to spray...use bottle when you reach red hp...after luring the creeps just return to your lane so you can wait till another wave of creeps spawn and you can double lure again!

7c)Late Game- lv 13 - 18 FARM FARM FARM FARM FARM FARM FARM FARM FARM FARM Teleport here teleport there to farm lane,go neutral once in awhile AND GET YOUR HEARTS OUT!

lv 19-25 what else to say?start pushing and show off your backside!(Caution!show your backside once everybody starts aiming for you!)be the first to enter the enemy tower so everybody wastes their spells/stuns on you...




8)Conclusion


Hope everyone had fun reading my guide...REMEMBER TO GET EYE DROPS =(
I should be adding replays and screenshots once somebody bothers to teach me how to...
Finally credits...
:Banane38:
:Banane05:
:fruitsex:
:Banane27:
:Banane48:

FOR HELPING ME TO HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WHEN WRITING THE GUIDE (PS,i was eating them)

RuLeZanG
11-07-2007, 01:04 PM
584c period?i dun recall bb being in there...and seriously he was only popular recently then everybody started using him...

wc3`
11-07-2007, 01:58 PM
yup i don rmb having bb during 584c period. nice guide there btw. but a Boots of Travel before a reaver might be better if u wan to play him as a pure farmer from wat i tink.

2 bottles and 1 crow for a bb sounds cool~

df01
11-07-2007, 03:32 PM
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hope this helps. ^^

eck. i remember that bristleback was remade. but can't remember if he was in 5.84. hmmm.

dRaGoN
11-07-2007, 06:08 PM
lol sry my mistake 6.27b it was gonna change it now =)

btw a hearts before Bot is for fast farmers...so you can prevent dying much lesser

GenGen.
11-07-2007, 07:39 PM
Sounds like a weak build -.-

DrakaN
11-07-2007, 10:18 PM
2 bottles aren't really needed...its like delaying your hood/**** by quite awhile...unless your controlling your opponents well it could really delay your build

sheny_1
11-07-2007, 11:03 PM
Getting goo so late .
i dun see how you are gonna chase down your enemy without the slow from goo

dRaGoN
11-07-2007, 11:10 PM
700 more gold in return for not returning back to the fountain is good actually...btw sheny bristleback is a farming hero not a catcher =) usually bristleback can't catch without help since people can easily tp away right in front of you

DrakaN
11-07-2007, 11:41 PM
all you need is a crow+1 bottle to keep farming.anyways once you get hood you won't usually need to return to the foutain..unless you keep dying

streamofhonour
11-08-2007, 12:38 AM
lol from my experiences in draftmatches i feel that goo is a MUST for even early lvls(correct me if im wrong anyone?)so that u can catch with ur lanemates who are apparently trying to catch the opponent hero.for example,if you are soloing and a vs comes to catch the opposing sf,u will need the slow or u will not be able to be of much help except doing dmg of one or two sprays.goo will help alot in early games.if u feel that mana might be a problem,just add one lvl of goo. mana shouldnt be a problem as in your build u have 2 bottles although i think its too much of an unnecessary item

dRaGoN
11-09-2007, 12:32 PM
actually i take the bottle not for hp...but for the mana,also when i say you double lure the ancient creep spawn you will usually need 2 bottles to clear the creep even if you got hood of defiance...

DERRICK
11-11-2007, 04:25 PM
actually i take the bottle not for hp...but for the mana,also when i say you double lure the ancient creep spawn you will usually need 2 bottles to clear the creep even if you got hood of defiance...
lvl 1 goo is good enuf..
i prefer refilling ur bottle wif crow ~
as crow can work as ur scout too..
act like a bm hawk in the early game..
detailed guide actually..
^_^
nice..
:Banane11:

StripperA
11-11-2007, 06:40 PM
pictures will make ur guide better

shadower
11-12-2007, 02:40 PM
one bottle is enough and crow is not really needed........if after u get hood nobody can hurt u much u 2bottles for awhile and sell it away is a waste bb mus be a fast farmer or else gg

StripperA
01-16-2008, 10:31 PM
every hero get mekansm win liao, like my friend

VaL
01-16-2008, 11:20 PM
Getting goo so late .
i dun see how you are gonna chase down your enemy without the slow from goo

The nature of bb is a farmer not a catcher. But what i think she meant here was that bb aiding in the catch on his lane or at the nc area. Or even slowing his opponent that is catching him in the nc area waiting for his teammates to arrive.

Having a goo early will be advantageous to his team. Some may argue that having a level 1 goo is sufficient, however i still prefer to leave it at level 2 as 3% doesnt really slow much.

1)Quill Spray
2)BristleBack
3)Quill Spray
4)BristleBack
5)Quill Spray
6)Warpath
7)Quill Spray
8)BristleBack
9)Viscous Nasal Goo
10)Viscous Nasal Goo
11)Warpath
12)BristleBack

As you have mentioned that Bristleback will be nc-ing at lvl 9-13
Therefore having Viscous Nasal Goo at this point of time is important. He can forgo 1 level of BristleBack for it as the nc will not be dealing much damage to him. And to aid Bristleback in farming, i believe that his teammates will have the nc area warded. And as i mentioned earlier on, that his opponent catchers will try to catch him. With wards he will be able to foresee. Viscous Nasal Goo can help to stall time while his teammates come in and anti-catch the catcher. Finally maxing his BristleBack at level 12 just before he embarks on his teleporting from lane to lane to farm.
For the 2 bottle part, I wont rule it out as a bad choice. But in my opinion 1 should do the job. Again, all these lies in your perspective. Different people have different items/skill builds. Which makes dota interesting instead of just having 1 general item build for all heros.

Miyaki-
01-16-2008, 11:38 PM
lol..2 heart? the gamemust be v.long..some ppl got for hood then rad to speed up farming..anw quite a nice guide

gAR[L]ic
01-17-2008, 03:10 AM
i thought lvl 1 goo enough liao -_- lvl 1 already so imba ler lols =/

SaiNtaNiC
01-17-2008, 06:48 AM
lol garlic lol suan

PLAY LIKE ZW LA !!

goo and stats ftl.

Miyaki-
01-17-2008, 10:07 AM
ic']i thought lvl 1 goo enough liao -_- lvl 1 already so imba ler lols =/

yah lor.agreed..the goo can stack one.

MessY-
01-17-2008, 11:01 AM
lol but higher lvl more - armor right?

StripperA
01-17-2008, 06:55 PM
get radiance and bot la, then spray the mother creeps

MessY-
01-17-2008, 07:46 PM
bristleback damn hard to die. just eul him and clear the rest of the team :))

StripperA
01-17-2008, 08:30 PM
ya heck care him, stupid bah gua

KilluaxKillua
01-17-2008, 09:18 PM
LOL bah gua =_= u think cny arh :p

CrimsonBlack
01-18-2008, 09:54 AM
A quillspray and bristleback build was extremely powerful in the past, but now that a cap is added to the number of times it can stack, goo may be needed early game. On the contrary, without a vanguard you may not be able to execute tower dives early game, because with a low level goo because by the time you stack it to a reasonable speed to chase the enemy, he will probably be at his tower already.

However, just having a bristleback + spray build, if you manage to get a hood + vanguard early sat 20 mins or so, you may survive 3 int heroes' full combo, facing your backside to them, or maybe even kill them due to overspraying.

I agree, bottle is a good item on bristleback because the enemies have a hard time beating the shit out of him from his back, and when he heals while running its going to get really annoying.

StripperA
01-20-2008, 04:39 AM
A quillspray and bristleback build was extremely powerful in the past, but now that a cap is added to the number of times it can stack, goo may be needed early game. On the contrary, without a vanguard you may not be able to execute tower dives early game, because with a low level goo because by the time you stack it to a reasonable speed to chase the enemy, he will probably be at his tower already.

However, just having a bristleback + spray build, if you manage to get a hood + vanguard early sat 20 mins or so, you may survive 3 int heroes' full combo, facing your backside to them, or maybe even kill them due to overspraying.

I agree, bottle is a good item on bristleback because the enemies have a hard time beating the shit out of him from his back, and when he heals while running its going to get really annoying.

interesting take on bristleback's build, i might try ur build some time