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d0minic
11-15-2007, 09:46 PM
I stumbled upon a great guide by one of the person who wrote it in GG-Game forum. Its about stuff that when playing DotA you more or less wont know it.

"Did You Know- (This is not 100% correct, just correct me if some are wrong, some of you already know's some of this but pls...keep negative comments to yourself, i just felt like sharing this to all of you)

-Medusa's PURGE only damages summoned units while diffusal's purge instantly kills them?
-Sven, The Rogue Knight was named Arnold Schwarzenegger before?
-The only negative buff that purge can't cancel is Doom?
-When a hero blinks while ensnared they still can't move but they have no net animation?
-Zeus's chainlightning is the only chainlightning that doesn't weaken on bounces they still deal initial damage?
-You can only attack and can't use skills when netted by meepo?
-Ursa warrior actually has 2 names...1 is FUZZY WUZZY and the other is ULFASAAR?
-You can netherswap bkb and repeled heroes?
-Rearm doesn't quicken the cooldown of helm on dominator and Hand of midas but just REcooldown it?
-There is no female hero on STR!!?
-Enchantresse's enchant can control all images including chaos knight's ultimate?
-Balanar has the farthest line of sight at night?
-When rikimaru is doomed by lucifer, he looses Permanent Invisibility?
-Impale doesn't work if the enemy unit is stunned?
-Windwalking while assasinated doesn't cancel it?
-You can actually cancel blink, when you click it on the desired place, just press shortcut key "s" which makes a fake blink animation?
-Furion's teleport and Kardel's assasinaton can also be cancelled, same procedure but kardel's assasination needs to be used on enemy target?
-N'aix and SKeleton King are the only hero's with 1 activated skill?
-N'aix is the only hero that can reach 100% lifesteal?
-While Yunero is using blade fury, he can still use item activated on his inventory, example is dagon?
-Some stun, lasts longer on summoned units and creeps than the hero itself?
-Vodoo and hex can instantly kill image's?
-Healing fountain doesn't heal images?
-Song of the siren is the Farthest AoE spell, when its on the 3rd level, it actually is largen than the screen?
-Chronosphere doesn't actually stops channeling spells, it just delays them or stops them but not cancels?
-Vladimir's offering is not an orb effect?
-When Mercurial dies with a Divine Rapier, it drops, BUT IF he dies while having the dagger buff, it wont....?
-When stunned from impale, a hero cannot be stunned by another impale based spell at the same time, such as Nerubian Assasin's impale, Lion's impale, Levi's Ravage and Earthshaker's Fissure.
-Ursa used to be a ranged hero?
-Lycanthrope in wolf mode is a ranged hero?
-Enchantress' enchant can control Pandaren Brewmaster's Ultimate?
-Zeus second skill and ultimate reveal invisible units?
-Silence disables Rikimaru's stealth in the duration of the effect?
-Rearm does not refresh Necromonicon or Refresher Orb?
-Target's hit by Impale will auto-target the hero who used it?
-You can cancel all skills on Shadow Fiend?
-Towers cannot reveal invisible units out of the tower's 600 vision range, but the tower's vision range is 900?
-Alchemist's third skill, Goblin's Greed, works on Templar Assassin's trap and weaver's scout?
-Phantom Lancer will drop a Jux-item after BKB (which blif to fix already)?
-In older DotA versions, Morphling was multi-colored (color changing) & could copy spells?
-In older DotA versions, Lycan in wolf form had farther range attack?
-In older DotA versions, the Stealth Assassin, now called Rikimaru, had a death ward similar to witch doctor?
-In older DotA versions, Faceless void's ultimate froze the whole map?
-In older DotA versions, you could dupe items in DM mode?
-lucifer also has 2 names he has lucifer and lucy
-wild axes destroys the wall fissure creates
-Eye of Skadi is not an orb effect on ranged heroes but it is a buff placer so it overrides other buff placers such as Corruption?
-Furion's teleport cannot be cancelled by stunning him, if he is stunned while casting the spell he will continue to cast it after the stun duration is over?
-While doomed the following abilities are disabled: passive bash, criticals, evasion and lifesteal? An exeption to this is backtrack but backtrack technically isnt an evasion.
-Eclipse and Epicenter will continue even if the caster has already died?
-Marksmanship technically deals infinite damage?
-You can dodge most projectiles with Blink and Windwalk?
-If your hero has less than 0.5 casting then you can use those skills while under the effect of Blackhole?
-Frostbite permanently freezes scourge and sentinel's creeps?
-Backtrack can dodge some target spells?


Hope This Trivia Helps You All Out, Ill Add More If I Learned More......"

Source: [GG-Game (http://www.gg-game.com/forum)]

Archdevilasd
11-16-2007, 12:20 AM
meepo net le still can leap?
frostbite doesnt freeze rite?
purge cant cancel frost or maim etc passively dealt buffs rite?
tower's truesight can see 700+abit? its range is 700 so at the least everyone knows it has at least 700..
riki loses invis as long as he tio silenced
can broodmother reach 100% life leech?

-5cents of a noob

sheny_1
11-16-2007, 08:07 AM
netted by meepo u can still cast spell

SummerSnow
11-16-2007, 10:23 AM
acutally its just the impales that doesn't stack at all no dmg and no stun duration override, the stun just overrides for other cases.

ZyHinoX
11-16-2007, 12:50 PM
-In older DotA versions, Faceless void's ultimate froze the whole map?

Wow cool.

xsomebodyx
11-16-2007, 04:25 PM
no wonder last night potm leaped out of my blackhole. rofllllll

GenGen.
11-16-2007, 04:48 PM
-When Mercurial dies with a Divine Rapier, it drops, BUT IF he dies while having the dagger buff, it wont....?
(*Now everyone is gonna first item rapier)

-While doomed the following abilities are disabled: passive bash, criticals, evasion and lifesteal? An exeption to this is backtrack but backtrack technically isnt an evasion.
(My god an anti-PA?)

-If your hero has less than 0.5 casting then you can use those skills while under the effect of Blackhole?
(Does sandking's burrowstrike count?)

Sapphiro
11-16-2007, 08:00 PM
should add one more.. :P

- While under the effect of Berserker's call, its better to do nothing and let your hero auto attack axe than to keep spamming "s". (more % to execute counter helix)


[edit] -- i think i shouldnt have posted this :X

StripperA
11-16-2007, 08:34 PM
-wild axes destroys the wall fissure creates <== this is so damn imba, i nv knew..

RuLeZanG
11-17-2007, 03:03 AM
ion shield cast on sa still does dmg when sa is invis...this is a fun thing to use ^^

i dun get this one tho...Marksmanship technically deals infinite damage?

d4rkw1sH
11-17-2007, 04:51 AM
just means that drow's ult has a chance to do 999999999999999999 dmg to creeps in order for instant kill of any creeps when marksmanship occurs

SummerSnow
11-17-2007, 08:34 AM
@darkwish,thats not the case... if can do 999999999999999999 dmg u fatal bond the creep with hero. [All]Hero(Hero): HALLEHLUYA GG. all 5 die together becos of a creep. The effect is acutally that the creep just die, like how midas kill a creep.


@RuleZang, it acutally work with all invis hero, like nw de watcher u ion make it run with opponent damn gay lol. Ppl have BH, dark seer combo becos of the same reason.

df01
11-17-2007, 10:28 AM
@summersnow: the fatal bond + marksmanship bug WAS in fact abused quite a few versions ago. it has already been corrected though im not sure in what way. but essentially darkwish is right.

SummerSnow
11-17-2007, 11:44 AM
oo probadly i didnt notice in the other versions. but one thing is for sure . in a stable league map, its corrected right ?lols

freshie
11-17-2007, 11:48 AM
marksmanship is a modified from the skill bash where there is a % chance of d doing a 0.01 stun duration and a bash damage of xxxx, do not know whether it is just 2000 or 9999999. But since it is base on RANGE bash, it does not work on alot of creeps like golems and dragons.

There is a different between melee bash and range bash as melee bash can bash everything (so far i know) but range bash does not work on creeps like dragon and golem and even BKBed heroes.

This is the same for passive skill Critical. Melee Critical can work on all creeps but Range Critical cant work on dragon and golems. Not sure about the Bkbed hero part.

frenze
11-17-2007, 06:27 PM
lol not sure why you'd be intrested in older dota versions but

-In older DotA versions, Lycan in wolf form had farther range attack?
ONLY if he bought an MoM



-In older DotA versions, the Stealth Assassin, now called Rikimaru, had a death ward similar to witch doctor?
SA also had blink and critical strike. which meant he had 5 skills.



also DYK, SNIPER once had standard range of omfg1337- 2500


and btw swap works on anything, bkbed heros, a spinning jugger, a phase shifted puck ect ect.

freshie
11-17-2007, 09:08 PM
lol not sure why you'd be intrested in older dota versions but

-In older DotA versions, Lycan in wolf form had farther range attack?
ONLY if he bought an MoM



-In older DotA versions, the Stealth Assassin, now called Rikimaru, had a death ward similar to witch doctor?
SA also had blink and critical strike. which meant he had 5 skills.



also DYK, SNIPER once had standard range of omfg1337- 2500


and btw swap works on anything, bkbed heros, a spinning jugger, a phase shifted puck ect ect.

Ursa and Lycan wolf form is range, base on the model of the standard game due to the engine itself. But the range is very short and there is no projectile, so it is not very obvious. Getting life steal orb item will give him a projectile when attack and also no cleaving attack when equip with battlefury.

Rikimaru does not have 5 skills, only 4. Permanent Invisibility, blink, critical strike and death ward which is the ultimate. Although permanent invisibility is not ultimate skill, you can only start learning when lvl 5. Blink is the same as AM and Qop, Critical strike is up to 15% of 3x damage. Death ward is ultimate but does not require channeling, and there are 4 Levels of Death ward, lvl 3 and 4 able to attack 2 targets, not bounce. Common item for Sa will be Mom, no mana cost and last for 12 sec for 12% life steal. Cost of buying it is 1900 but sell back to shop is 1500.

In Version 2 Dota, Dwarven Sniper's skill take aim gives him a max of 1500 attack range, at the expense of his move speed. Cost 100 mana to change form and take 4 sec to cast. And Keeper of the light is call Conjurer, or they have the same model, able to duplicate, summon golems, water elemental and phoenix.

Swap, Doom is modified base on Standard Game ultimate which will work on Avatar. So the nature of these modified skills will still work on Avatar and Bkbed Heroes.

freshie
11-17-2007, 09:23 PM
ok let me add something that most people dont know. This is about Roshan.

Roshan's attack cannot attack building since people abuse the bug of pulling it to scourge tower long ago.
Roshan's attack cannot attack ward also.
Roshan is able to drop items from his own inventory but unable to pick up items.
The skill which has the effect of linken sphere on Roshan has the icon of mekansm, cooldown of 15 sec and able to self click.
The stun skill hurl boulder require 100 mana while the other Slam skill has no name and require 90 mana.

frenze
11-17-2007, 11:23 PM
ok let me add something that most people dont know. This is about Roshan.

Roshan's attack cannot attack building since people abuse the bug of pulling it to scourge tower long ago.
Roshan's attack cannot attack ward also.
Roshan is able to drop items from his own inventory but unable to pick up items.
The skill which has the effect of linken sphere on Roshan has the icon of mekansm, cooldown of 15 sec and able to self click.
The stun skill hurl boulder require 100 mana while the other Slam skill has no name and require 90 mana.



Bet you had no idea roshan drops bannas after he's out of cheese! j/k.:bananajump:

nic0las
11-19-2007, 06:40 PM
wild axes dont destroy fissure walls anymore. tested by d0minic.