You love me, you love me not, you love me......

[DOTASG_PAPA]

Hi guys, NewSpring was just over, so do you have any feedback for us. Other than nonsense and flame, we will take all positive and negative with stride and will keep them in mind when we are preparing for our next season.

So all of you be it participants, spectators or our loyal visitors please feel free to comment about it.

[Balfrix]

it would be greatly appreciated if u allowed someone to play when he reaches even though he or she comes late instead of letting us play a 4v5 match. it may well due change the outcome of the match. it makes totally no sense at all to play a 4v5 match, and although u may well want to promote professionalism, isnt fair play a part of it, and i dont think a 4v5 match is near anywhere that. at the instant especially when he or she comes, and the match hasnt even begin, u should have let the player joined the game instead of forcing him to pull out, leaving his team to play a pointless match. :)

[xsomebodyx]

yea i rmb there was once when ice came 20mins late and his enigma was lvl 1, sitting in base. however, with his involvement in the game, zenith (or was it still mVp at that time, can't rmb) still won the game, even with a player that was 20mins late =)

[Dota_compy]

I prefer competition with double elimination instead of group stages as it gives teams a chances when they loses instead of no show or something else when they meet the top teams.
I did some calculations and found out the the numbers of games played is quite close between group stages and double elimination so the time spent if playing on double elimination mode is not extreme time consuming.

Wonder anyone share the same preference as me.

[DOTASG_PAPA]

it would be greatly appreciated if u allowed someone to play when he reaches even though he or she comes late instead of letting us play a 4v5 match. it may well due change the outcome of the match. it makes totally no sense at all to play a 4v5 match, and although u may well want to promote professionalism, isnt fair play a part of it, and i dont think a 4v5 match is near anywhere that. at the instant especially when he or she comes, and the match hasnt even begin, u should have let the player joined the game instead of forcing him to pull out, leaving his team to play a pointless match. :)

Thank you for the feed back we will take note of it and see how this kind of situation can be prevented.

For the situation on the final day in NewSpring, DotaSG to be fair we had to make that decision and stand by it. If time were to turn back the decision would still be the same for any team that had member who were late and I mean extremely late, read on to find out, wall of words coming, sorry.

Maybe let me explain the situation. That team was late had earlier in the day and collected a warning for their earlier game. So I was informed that a first was issued. Then for the game in particular you are referring to were their later game where they were made to play 4v5. That match was suppose to starts at 1pm (correct me if I am wrong, PaPa is old, memory fading).

Marshal has informed them earlier that by 1:20pm they must come back. When 1:20pm we do no see any of them. No one know where they are and they did not report and tell us what happened.

I personally did a favor by calling them to find out if they are ok. Turned out that they have member missing and will be late. Now a second warning was issued, actually by now we could have DQ the team but we decided to give them a final chance.

By 1:30pm the member is still no where in sight. Thus, they asked to draft first and we agreed. We did not tell them they have to play 4v5 if their member is not here by 1:40pm. They agreed.

After the draft again it pass 1:40pm they plead with me and I told them to start first and let us access the situation. I checked with all marshal that for any team before we have not dragged so long and even for another team who encounter the similar situation in day one accepted to play 4v5. So we decided that our decision is final.

Finally the player come just a moment before the game was about to start at 1.59pm, they checked with my marshal and was told that he could not join in till that match is over. So that was what happened.

I understand in playing a 4v5 can be an unpleasant experience, especially when you guys know one another and want a good fight. However, you must also understand by being late it had make things inconvenient for many parties. Let's not talk about us first. There are other competitor down the line, who came on time and complete their game on time. If they have to wait for your team because they are late will it be fair then? Then there are our nice sponsor, when you guys are late, prolong the event game time and affect them, this time they are nice to let complete our event, but do you feel it's fair? Lastly, of cause my marshal and my team.

I believe in our event some stuff were done or implemented to help participants to arrange their time. The game time schedule were out long long ago, participants were informed that they were to make themselves free from 10th - 13th march, if they have problem we let them refund or change the roster before they start their first game. Lastly, registering a sixth member was encourage so in situation like this team still have a life saving option to sub a member that could not make it.

So looking at the whole situation, we only wish for your understanding that all we did end of the day is for the good of professional game play. Following that will make the tournament event pleasant experience for everyone. Why I take the time to write the wall above is not to flame war or to start a debate, but just want you guys to understand.

Support and cooperation from you guys are what keep us going. Really. I can confidently says that we are all here doing all these for the passion in gaming. The passion in DotA.

So to end my wall of words for the day. Let's Make Love not War. Thanks for the feedback, we appreciate it.

[Nanoflame]

I prefer competition with double elimination instead of group stages as it gives teams a chances when they loses instead of no show or something else when they meet the top teams.
I did some calculations and found out the the numbers of games played is quite close between group stages and double elimination so the time spent if playing on double elimination mode is not extreme time consuming.

Wonder anyone share the same preference as me.
yup, having double elimination would be interesting. i think it would also encourage more teams to draft new heroes and strategies in a high stake match as they can still pull back in from the loser bracket's in case it didn't work out.
however i think it would also be quite chaotic and confusion for the marshalls to arrange so many matches at once ..

[SG_Lancelot]

double elimination would be impossible for tis compy (i tink)

it takes DOUBLE the time for it to finish.

thus, we can see more teams pulling out due to other commitments eg work.

[Dota_compy]

double elimination would be impossible for tis compy (i tink)

it takes DOUBLE the time for it to finish.

thus, we can see more teams pulling out due to other commitments eg work.

if u calculate the total games played, it's almost the same as the group stages.




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i just did calculations of the total games played using groupstages and double elimination.

Groupstage - ( following dotasgpapa format) 62 games played in total.

Double elimination - 60 games played in total.

It's lesser lol.

[DarK)MaG3]

CHICKEN SHARING! i guess its time that more sg tournies start to adept to chicken sharing.

[HeRo`]

Maybe the maps used could be set standard, so that viewing replays would be much an easier job.

And yes, we should adopt to sharing of Couriers, it will be much better for a team play game like DotA.

[VaL]

yea i rmb there was once when ice came 20mins late and his enigma was lvl 1, sitting in base. however, with his involvement in the game, zenith (or was it still mVp at that time, can't rmb) still won the game, even with a player that was 20mins late =)

There was also a tournament when LuX and Ant came late and Zenith still won 3v5

[VaL]

Anyway can someone fill me up about Clan mVp rTx Omg oYa and some other well known clans in the past. What happened to them?

[ZyHinoX]

There was also a tournament when LuX and Ant came late and Zenith still won 3v5

wow cool 3v5 still win

[DERRICK]

the aircon dere was too cold..
even i stand dere watch oso cold..
=D
n MATCH COMMENTATING !!
cold~
:Banane51:

[SG_Lancelot]

lol. cyberdome is famous for the aircon.

wear jacket dere the hand still freezing.

but its 24hrs so hu cares. 3am LAN anyone?

[HeRo`]

Cyberdome isn't the coldest lan shop, Crossfire is.

[fAze | KOSH]

Crossfire is the darkest + coldest lan shop.

The schedule was nicely planned out, just thats its a little early to start a dota compe ( just like GG's compe i guess, a little too early ) had difficulties actually meeting team mates on time and lack of sleep. And yes the replay standard map shd be set, although my friend had no problem renaming it and viewing the replay.

GREAT JOB for the cold hard cash rather then wait a few months to be able to get the money. Gogo DotaSG, next compe = SummerSlam?

[s[ky]h4rtx]

Crossfire is the darkest + coldest lan shop.

The schedule was nicely planned out, just thats its a little early to start a dota compe ( just like GG's compe i guess, a little too early ) had difficulties actually meeting team mates on time and lack of sleep. And yes the replay standard map shd be set, although my friend had no problem renaming it and viewing the replay.

GREAT JOB for the cold hard cash rather then wait a few months to be able to get the money. Gogo DotaSG, next compe = SummerSlam?
yah damn early for a compy like gg compy average i tink we only slpt 3 hours a day .
and **** u seng don make mi jealous bout ur money _|_

[DOTASG_PAPA]

Hehee, time wise we have to help our sponsor by trying not to disturb their biz. But if we can later is what we prefer. Remember, PaPa and especially my guys wakes up even earlier to standby for reg. LoL. Aiyah, it's March holiday mah, dun sleep to late lah. Healthy lifestyle manz.

Glad you all love the cold hard cash, cos as much as possible I will ensure payment are promptly paid.

Thanks for the comment. Really glad you all appreciate what we have done for you. Look our for more events by us. Keep the comment coming.

As for the cold aircon, I will feedback to CYBERDOME's boss when I see him.

:D

[s[ky]h4rtx]

Hehee, time wise we have to help our sponsor by trying not to disturb their biz. But if we can later is what we prefer. Remember, PaPa and especially my guys wakes up even earlier to standby for reg. LoL. Glad you all love the cold hard cash, cos as much as possible I will ensure payment are promptly paid.

Thanks for the comment. Really glad you all appreciate what we have done for you. Look our for more events by us. Keep the comment coming.

As for the cold aircon, I will feedback to CYBERDOME's boss when I see him.

:D
papa don make compy like one in a season . try make it once a month thn teams in sg will continue to strive n improve !

[Hxhx]

gogogo be like jj fast improvement award ftw

[s[ky]h4rtx]

wdf justin don suan wo le =/


HX FTW

[death_inferno]

There was also a tournament when LuX and Ant came late and Zenith still won 3v5
You already said zenith. so winning isnt a problem. lol

[gAR[L]ic]

should have 2 legs on a game ma if its ko. like first game on senti the other on scourge or smth. liddat more interesting ^^