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DOTASG_PAPA
10-21-2006, 03:40 PM
Well, while I am here in Italy for WCG Grand Final, I keep been thinking a lot about the fate of DotA for the next few coming years.

Why DotA have been around for ages and it’s damn popular in many countries but still it is still not a main event in major tournament.

Is it with the map, or is it the game play or is it just because there is not enough support.

I think the main reason is a little of it.

The map "fatal error" bug has been improved but still rear its ugly head every now and then.

As for the game play, I have no complains. Only thing is that new stuffs are still being added. It gives people an impression that it is still not complete yet.

Lastly, about the factor of supports. Well, support from gamers and fan of DotA is sure there. However, we are still lagging support from the big boys. We also have to support one another in terms of the rules and game format. Although, Singapore/S.E. Asia and UK/USA have different sets of rules. But still think we should support and respect one another in terms of the ruling. Each set of rule has it's advantage and also is suitable for competitive play.

Well, so let's hope and pray hard that miracle happens fast so that our DotA players worldwide can start traveling all over for DotA tournaments.

GL HF!!!

EquliBria
10-22-2006, 10:57 AM
perhaps people just see dota as a very famous custom map in wc3 instead of a fully fletched game..

CrimsonBlack
10-22-2006, 06:58 PM
Yes somebody posted this before, but you must know that anything made by the world editor(The thing you use to make maps) is now blizzard's property, and also, most of the stuff in DotA e.g The Frozen Throne, The World Tree, Furion etc. also belongs to the warcraft lore.

CrimsonBlack
10-22-2006, 08:27 PM
wtf lol. But night elves, undead scourge, orcs etc. are also warcraft stuff lol. ice kachang at most $10 only, when die can always replace lol. and summore if it goes as a standalone game blizzard can sue them like nuts.

abuseyouud
10-23-2006, 12:51 AM
Have all dota player contribute 10 bucks and let icefrog buy over blizzard :P

FarmerJohn
10-23-2006, 01:23 PM
Blizzard will not make effort to bring DOTA up becoz
1. even if they sell DOTA licenses, the revenues from that entire sales would only be equivalent to WoW's one month revenues of at least US$50million per month
2. They wun wanna get into legal trouble with companies like Squaresoft for heroes like Phantom Lancer or even to Epic for the voiceovers.

Hardware companies have no reasons to support DOTA coz it doesn't require very high end hardware to play.

So who else of significant global weight is supporting DOTA besides the gamers (who do not bring value to both blizzard and the hardware companies through DOTA)?

Sad proposition. Bleak future. imho.

mysterialite
10-23-2006, 04:03 PM
rules also need a revamp. and maybe proper marshalling.

BaByWizZieE
10-23-2006, 04:08 PM
but still need wc3 to run editor mahx?

CrimsonBlack
10-24-2006, 11:47 AM
Yes,this is why DotA cannot be standalone. If you ever noticed alot of stuff in DotA comes from other games, just like the Phantom Lancer, it's from Final Fantasy. Sange and Yasha comes from a game called 'Phantasy Online'. 'Stygian Desolator' comes form 'Anarchy Online'. 'Buriza-do Kyonan' comes from diablo, so did cranium basher. Even all DotA players contribute 10 bucks, they can't buy blizzard. Have any idea how big blizzard is?

And Blizzard cannot tell DotA, stop it. You're dominating my game. Cos if people want to play DotA, they have to buy it Warcraft. This makes blizzard richer.
So who else of significant global weight is supporting DOTA besides the gamers (who do not bring value to both blizzard and the hardware companies through DOTA)?

I agree. What else than gamers like us actually support DotA?

Archdevilasd
10-31-2006, 02:14 PM
i like to play dota too

Archdevilasd
10-31-2006, 07:44 PM
DOta has changed so much over the months!!!!

months? nono .. 3 years le lol

amnesia
10-31-2006, 08:25 PM
i freaking hate meatwagon

CrimsonBlack
10-31-2006, 08:27 PM
i hate glaive thrower =/

amnesia
10-31-2006, 08:29 PM
i hate ballista

AhCat
10-31-2006, 09:43 PM
i hate haters

AhCat
10-31-2006, 09:43 PM
joking lol

LoveLauR.X3
10-31-2006, 11:34 PM
meatwagon is annoying yes!

AhCat
11-01-2006, 02:49 PM
somehow i feel that meatwagon and glaivethrower's AI are different.

CrimsonBlack
11-01-2006, 05:23 PM
Just the projectile. If you make maps, you should know that they all do nnot have a AI, but just a simple trigger script.

Events - Unit enters Region (Scourge Creep Middle Spawn)
Conditons - (Entering unit) equals to (Meatwagon) is (true)
Unit - Order (Triggering unit) to (attack-move) to (Region World Tree)

That's the only trigger command. Same for the creeps. That is why after Tiny toss or stuns like primal roar causes creeps to hold their position if there is no enemy. Too chimp for some peeps to understand, but those who can make maps will =)

PokeDEx
11-02-2006, 10:53 PM
Sk epi does the job better than pugna blast...

retarded
11-06-2006, 01:54 PM
i am spammer

retarded
11-06-2006, 01:54 PM
i am spammer indeed

CrimsonBlack
11-06-2006, 02:55 PM
... Retarded wants to get banned =/

AhCat
11-06-2006, 04:10 PM
what's the purpose of doing that lol

AhCat
11-06-2006, 04:21 PM
lol i meant the retarded guy-what's his purpose?

MaNtA.
11-11-2006, 02:35 PM
Meat Wagons and Ballistas screw up my farming =.=

xpireD
11-11-2006, 02:48 PM
dota's like chaging too fast.
that kinda sucks.
we'll i guess we'll have to get used to it.
just like the shift from the 5.84s to 6.??

KCobain
11-15-2006, 03:48 AM
dota is the reason why many youngsters here in sg buy the battle chest.2/3 of the custom maps are dota at anytime.sadly it will not last as a standalone version given the fact that it's much of a 'borrowed' game.

d0minic
11-15-2006, 11:11 AM
this is becus dota is much simpler to play and i believe some of us hates micro dat much of units..

agree. really hope dota becomes well known and a respected game

HereWithoutYou
11-15-2006, 11:36 AM
oh wells... i've been thinking damn long bout the idea of dota being a standalone game but i dun think icefrog is that rich to create and market the game and to put it onto the market... it will cost millions and if it is not a success then... and did any of u noe rikimaru is from tenchu? and it will also probably take years and years to create the character models and their skills all over again... if it breaches blizzard copyright then they r gna get sued...

d0minic
11-15-2006, 01:34 PM
i think dota is fine as it is now. i think it will not survive as a standalone game

KCobain
11-15-2006, 06:16 PM
anyway why do we want it as a standalone game huh? pay more money meh.now alrdy it's cool.