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technie
11-03-2006, 11:57 PM
Anyone has the same feeling as i do ?

I mean.. his 2nd skill is = Doom damage except it doesnt have the silence.
his skills cant be dispelled by heros like Naga who can image off ultimates of heros like Veno. Does this mean even an ultimate cant be compared to a mere 2nd spell of Warlock ?

Anyone knows any counter ? The c/d is also pretty fast for a damage/healing spell this strong

AhCat
11-03-2006, 11:59 PM
you mean mirror image cannot dispel the 2nd skill? but it will make things obvious as to which is the real naga and which is the illusion. or did he cast a 2nd time on the real one?

AhCat
11-04-2006, 12:00 AM
a counter i know of is lord of abbadon. when the warlock uses the skill, use apothetic shield.

technie
11-04-2006, 12:00 AM
Nope. I thought the image would dispel away. But the spell STAYS on the real naga and doesnt disappear.

d0minic
11-04-2006, 12:04 AM
lol.. i remembering starting a thread about this which eventually leads to warlock being feared. seriously, if u face warlock try and withstand him till mid late game. but for early game. i think the only ppl that can solo lane wif him is , bane and Lord oF avernus.

technie
11-04-2006, 12:05 AM
even bane may not match up to it.. and lord is a melee hero

AhCat
11-04-2006, 12:05 AM
Nope. I thought the image would dispel away. But the spell STAYS on the real naga and doesnt disappear.
that's damned imba. works better than gem in that it can single out the real hero from illusions..

AhCat
11-04-2006, 12:06 AM
maybe there is some way for loa to take warlock.

d0minic
11-04-2006, 12:06 AM
he can. a good bane can. for loa i think he have to keep casting aphotic so as to dmg warlock and result warlock in healing himself and not having an opportunity to dmg the loa.

AhCat
11-04-2006, 12:07 AM
he can. a good bane can. for loa i think he have to keep casting aphotic so as to dmg warlock and result warlock in healing himself and not having an opportunity to dmg the loa.
yeah! over time loa probably grows stronger than warlock

technie
11-04-2006, 12:09 AM
ya well thats if LOA isnt fighting with Warlock in its lane.. =(

technie
11-04-2006, 12:11 AM
ya i feel that some of the spells needs to be nerfed. i mean.. he has a pretty powerful ulti for pushing. a 2nd skill that > doom in a way because its c/d is much faster

AhCat
11-04-2006, 12:12 AM
buy dagon?

AhCat
11-04-2006, 12:14 AM
use spectre or axe. disperse or counterhelix near it!

technie
11-04-2006, 12:16 AM
if ur team is not doing dat well.. 2 infernos helps quite some too.. lol

AhCat
11-04-2006, 12:16 AM
lol warlock may own cause of the link skill and inferno and last word.

dunchbullyme
11-04-2006, 12:23 AM
medusa's purge deals 600 damage to the infernal

only diffusal purge pwns the infernal

KiO.Destiny
11-04-2006, 12:55 AM
obsidian owns golems

AhCat
11-04-2006, 01:20 AM
arcane orb..

xkyox
11-04-2006, 05:00 AM
diffusal blade like 1 hit! lol!

AhCat
11-04-2006, 10:49 AM
lol that's a good way to counter warlock. SA with diffusal vs warlock sounds good.

tempura
11-04-2006, 01:34 PM
The skill is nerfed in 638 rite? Diffusal is alw a good choice but once the warlock gets refresher den its kinda hard to take out 2 golems unless u got 2 diffusals.

AhCat
11-04-2006, 08:30 PM
2 golem + 1 purge = 1 golem

1 golem + 1 purge = nth....

no golem + no purge = boring
2 golem + 2 purge = happy purger shopping time

xbloodred
11-04-2006, 10:05 PM
Diffusal and purge doesnt pwn golem actually.... i tried purging golem at lvl 1 and ya it damages it ALOT. but once its lvl 3 purge doesnt do that much damage. I tried purging and only manage to reduce its hp to 3/4 full or even more.

Not to forget purge could be used to slow down other potential threatening heros or those trying to escape...

xbloodred
11-04-2006, 10:59 PM
im nt sure if Medusa's purge damage = Diffusal purge damage to summoned units. but meds purge doesnt 1 hit ko inferno.. even at lvl 1 i tink u need to purge 2 times.

I tried it yesterday so...

xbloodred
11-04-2006, 11:11 PM
hmm thn diffusal purge > medusa purge nw ? i didnt try diffusal b4 so i dun noe bout that one.. but it should be working the same way

AhCat
11-05-2006, 12:16 AM
i guess you can make back alot of money if you spent purge on golems.

xbloodred
11-05-2006, 02:02 AM
kz i tested diffusal and its the same as med's purge. Well u cant spam them on the golems coz the c/d isnt exactly fast

tempura
11-05-2006, 12:31 PM
Erm diffusal purge owns the golem in 1 hit. Thats in the league map 637 but they din change it in 638b did they?

AhCat
11-05-2006, 04:19 PM
kz i tested diffusal and its the same as med's purge. Well u cant spam them on the golems coz the c/d isnt exactly fast
from xbloodred's statement i guess they did change it.

markvon
11-05-2006, 09:07 PM
I think bane (a good one) would be able to handle a warlock relatively easy..... Brain sap for life if needed, and if needed, nightmare the inferno....

Archdevilasd
11-06-2006, 12:36 AM
i think best is to use silencer.. once he cast that you cast on him.. then he minus hp while he heal then his mana also minus..

xbloodred
11-06-2006, 06:10 AM
from xbloodred's statement i guess they did change it.

i tried it again todae and ya it does 1 hit ko the golems now o.o
i wonder why didnt it 1 hit ko golems when i tried the firz time.........
will try again tml.

tempura
11-06-2006, 11:28 AM
Medusa Purge definitely do not kill the golem wif 1 purge. Take quite a few. But diffusal can kill it wif 1 hit

Archdevilasd
11-06-2006, 01:38 PM
ya medusa purge.. how to use medusa btw arhz.. ia lways keep dying when on it one..

retarded
11-06-2006, 01:52 PM
i am spammer

retarded
11-06-2006, 01:52 PM
i am spammer indeed

AhCat
11-06-2006, 04:31 PM
medusa can try farm farm and farm!

miah121
11-07-2006, 10:23 PM
Obsidian destroyer can destroy his infernal in a few hit. Also, diffusal blade owns infernals hard. A warlock without his infernal should be easy to kill.

cheezewiss
02-12-2007, 05:03 PM
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cheezewiss
02-12-2007, 05:04 PM
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02-12-2007, 05:05 PM
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CrimsonBlack
02-12-2007, 05:42 PM
spam...first warning already i think?

StripperA
02-13-2007, 08:04 AM
Warlock now damn nerfed..

CrimsonBlack
02-13-2007, 04:36 PM
Ya...useless like shit, as I pointed out earlier...now its not much use except for the infernal and healing shadow word.

King4hao
02-13-2007, 06:24 PM
Warlock is not as strong as before,but definitely is still a powerhouse if enemy decide to let him farm a refresher.

Also,many had mentioned the use of diffusal blade.As a point of information,i would like to add in that it is expensive and is hardly useful to many teamplay hero and thus,it would be waste for many to go out of the normal core build and choose diffusal blade as to counter infernal. The result,you end up having a hero with just diffusal.

Strong early game lane control mean not many could outfarm him early.
You only can have heroes like THD,zeus... to control him,but it hard to actually outfarm and send him home for healing
Early Mid game when he start to use infernal for mega aoe stunning and pushing.
Mid game is when refresher is up.
From mid game onward,warlock job is to mainly support the team.(Ulti+channeling of upheaval completely destroy opposite fighting ability)
Not to mention if he have bkb on.

Warlock have obviously become weaker.But with decent skills and strong teamwork,it possible to play warlock as a strong supporter and win the game.
Of course,the possibilities to counter warlock is always available.

StripperA
02-13-2007, 10:12 PM
Refresher Lock still very strong but now because of the nerf opens up more hero options that can take him in the middle lane showdown. The aoe immolation and fatal bonds are still very shiok though, so I think he is still a great pick for draft match.

d0minic
02-14-2007, 06:33 AM
i personally dun like warlock haa.

StripperA
02-14-2007, 11:37 AM
let's nt use him then lol

lalala
02-14-2007, 11:55 PM
i feel tat WL is a good solo hero, he can control the hero in his lane veri well.. But die one time veri hard to catch up liao..

d0minic
02-15-2007, 02:09 AM
he suck now la.

LoveLauR.X3
02-15-2007, 05:57 PM
walock is imba if u buy lothars, can shadow word enemy and they never see it coming(if u ww) coz its a "SHADOW" word!

ruixiang
02-15-2007, 07:33 PM
Refresher strong meh ... I feel its useless now liao ...

WahBiang
02-16-2007, 12:48 PM
It aint really imba, many heroes can counter it.. str heroes late game, disablers,
NA,AM all can kill warlock quite easily.

StripperA
05-08-2007, 07:28 AM
wl is lousy and no longer imba