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MESSY
11-04-2006, 09:20 PM
Anyone can teach me how to counter SA before it gets too strong late-game? Damn i have a friend who always use SA and i juz cant beat him at all... :Banane20:

MESSY
11-04-2006, 09:39 PM
so early game must waste the $$ buy the sentry liao?

GneS.EilyK
11-04-2006, 10:24 PM
Investment would be a better word :Banane20:

AhCat
11-05-2006, 12:17 AM
SA is very slippery. you should carry sentry wards at around level 5, when he reaches lv 6, plant one at the place you're roaming. also alert any teammates if you have that sa is lv 6 and be on the lookout.

CrimsonBlack
11-05-2006, 08:52 AM
The best is nukers, like the suggested QoP. When he appears from his invisbility, nuke the shit outta him, and pretend you cant see him although you have wards. He most probaly has low hp, but still hanging around you. So when your nuking skills recharge, nuke him again. pwned liao. Zeus is da best. But late game...DIE! The best way to counter late game is LoA, or Bounty Hunter. Bounty has track, and a 325dmg nuke.

Yes, and it's very hard to counter SA. In my shool compy we pushed in at 20mins. Then the SA unstoppable lol. He inside can kill all of us(with help of teammates). Kanna pwned. But we still won that match ;D Because we pushed in. And position your wards well.

Archdevilasd
11-05-2006, 02:21 PM
i suggest nightstalker or slardar..

MM.Takahashi.Ai
11-05-2006, 02:44 PM
AXE!!!!
1. You can harass him. (Battle hunger, but it's better not to learn. Pump on tuant and the counter attack thing)
2. When he invisible he backstap you, there are chances to spin and counter him back.
3. When you wan to kill him at level 6, he backstap you, use the.. tuant, he cannot use skills and creeps will attack you, there more chances to spin and end it with your ulimate.
4. Get your armour high up, hp too. 2 agies, 1 BOT, 1 hearts, 1 S&Y, 1 MKB.
5. In this way, you wont need a gem/ward, just tuant near him and he will come out ^^

AhCat
11-05-2006, 04:26 PM
use techies+wards!
wards can see SA and any sentries nearby. SA most probably wouldn't risk eating the mines

Archdevilasd
11-05-2006, 07:07 PM
use doom bringer to eat the sa b4 he learn resistive skin

Archdevilasd
11-05-2006, 07:08 PM
use bristleback so he cannot attack you from the back

AhCat
11-06-2006, 04:40 PM
use chen and persuade him but bluff chen that it is a satyr trickster.

ngtes
11-06-2006, 05:09 PM
i nv knew sa was a threat if he's in ur lane o_o

siicklyretarded
11-06-2006, 06:08 PM
sa very easy to bully!
be alert and cheap shot or nuke him evverytime he comes out to hit u, his invis fade time so long!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

miah121
11-06-2006, 06:13 PM
Countering Sa is so easy. There are so many options, wards, gem, necronomicon 3.

markvon
11-06-2006, 06:31 PM
Well, there are a number of methods to counter SA.

if you are playing as slardar/bh, you shouldnt face too much problems. Amplify damage/track is essentially a free gem for you.

numerous other heroes like bs/early game nukers like zeus should be able to take down down sa early game.

Otherwise, wards or gems are your best frien

AhCat
11-06-2006, 06:41 PM
you can use axe or spectre too!

Archdevilasd
11-06-2006, 09:39 PM
use medusa.. so you dun need to keep a look out for him.. just keep split arrow open.. then he know he cmoe out zeng you he will got chance tio the split arrow.. so he wont dare.. so you just on split arrow and show him that.. then even when you zeng his rax he will stand there watch you cause he scared eat the split arrow

KCobain
11-24-2006, 10:15 PM
sladar>sa anyday

CrimsonBlack
11-25-2006, 08:19 AM
Oh yea. Why didnt I think of that. Amplify damage will reveal SA just like track, and slardar as a stun skill and with 2 bashers he can permabash.

pRaYeR
11-25-2006, 10:43 AM
i nv fail to own sa even in late game.. 1 track enough to own him.
his smoke can't do shit on bh since bh got evasion and critical that even out.
for speed, bh run faster than sa.. l0l..

King4hao
11-26-2006, 03:26 AM
If your playing 1v1 with your friend,then ward up when his 6
Choose hero that are range to prevent him from farming.

A easy trick here is to make sure he start with 700 gold instead of 4200.
that nerf him alot. :P

CrimsonBlack
11-26-2006, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by King4hao
A easy trick here is to make sure he start with 700 gold instead of 4200.

How the hell do you start with 4200 gold? Teach me!

mephisto50
11-26-2006, 07:36 PM
If your playing 1v1 with your friend,then ward up when his 6
Choose hero that are range to prevent him from farming.

A easy trick here is to make sure he start with 700 gold instead of 4200.
that nerf him alot. :P
How the hell do you start with 4200 gold? Teach me!
I think u start with that much in 1v1...
If not use :Banane20: |_|b3r 1337 901|) |-|4c|<:Banane20:
(uber leet gold hack) but why stop @ 4200... go up to 1337!!

King4hao
11-26-2006, 09:01 PM
sry..type wrongly..should be 3.2k after buying your hero

btw,in 5v5,you can use aoe to win him.Since he is rather fragile,few aoe nuke will be enough to kill him
But still,the main idea is to stop him from farming by warding up.

mephisto50
11-26-2006, 10:03 PM
sry..type wrongly..should be 3.2k after buying your hero

btw,in 5v5,you can use aoe to win him.Since he is rather fragile,few aoe nuke will be enough to kill him
But still,the main idea is to stop him from farming by warding up.

He is basically countered by warding/gemming... Hard to kill a pumped SA so prevent this..I see many ppl always run when SA(lvl6-7,not yet so strong with damage) whack.. worse still while the person runs, his teammate in the same lane runs along with him.
#1-Dun run from SA if u can pwn him at low lvls
#2- If you see ur teammate running from SA go help if u know u can.. dun think" omfg its SA the invis pro always godlike" then run away -.-

Reya
11-28-2006, 02:29 PM
hope maybe this 2 hero can help u ..

Bounty hunter and Morpling .. :/

KCobain
12-01-2006, 09:58 PM
hope maybe this 2 hero can help u ..

Bounty hunter and Morpling .. :/

hmm bh can but morpling?

CrisisAngel
12-02-2006, 03:11 PM
SA's threat is halved when u can see him, so as long as u use anything that reveals him, its easy. As for how to reveal him, so many possibilities... but don't forget that SA also can counter back sometimes even if u can see him.

Reya
12-02-2006, 04:58 PM
hmm bh can but morpling?

try morpling yourself. (:

unless your a noob morpling ):

CrisisAngel
12-02-2006, 06:45 PM
Morphling should be able to kill SA in the sense that its waveform is so rigged.
I'm sure its easy to pwn almost anyone with morph -.-

CrimsonBlack
12-02-2006, 06:57 PM
Yea...i saw a morphling who had this stats at level 14...
STR: 9
AGI: 106

(I think it was, cant confirm)

CrisisAngel
12-02-2006, 07:14 PM
Oh that person with the morph was you right, so smart.

McNuGGeTs
12-03-2006, 06:09 AM
Yea...i saw a morphling who had this stats at level 14...
STR: 9
AGI: 106

(I think it was, cant confirm)


how can that be ? so imba ! :Banane36: :Banane36:

Reya
12-07-2006, 03:28 AM
Morpling is strong.

But actually with str8 agi106.. lols .. that morpling must be really suagu type. cause need to look at hero damm well .. 1 mistake = byebye, unless with reaver and bracers, ok la.
usualy i'd get 1 power treads, 4 band, 1 perserverance, 100 mana for about 400 dmg :/ ( w/o armour reduction yet )

CrimsonBlack
12-07-2006, 08:28 AM
Oh that person with the morph was you right, so smart.

HAHA! Pwned you're wrong! Why Crisis, do you keep doubting me. This is so getting interesting. Why, It's my team leader's primary school friend.

Edit : Bad grammar

Reya
12-12-2006, 09:45 PM
Your team leader's primary school friend very sua gu :D

CrimsonBlack
12-13-2006, 08:24 AM
Yea...Abit. Having 106 agi without hearts cannot kill anyone...

d0minic
12-13-2006, 01:08 PM
lol imagine morph wants high agi. then starting pump morph. morph all str away. then he tio stun one time . die.

Reya
12-16-2006, 08:37 PM
more agi = more armour .. also more dmg reduction .. :/

k n i g h t
01-07-2007, 01:41 AM
How to counter SA?

S L A D A R!!
"Aid us in our plight."
"I'll make it so..."
"Misfortune tides u over"
"My Alliance binds me"
"where shall i strike?"

Emplify = GG for SA

CrimsonBlack
01-07-2007, 08:15 AM
Where shall i strike belongs to viper. Not slardar.

quincyzzx
01-07-2007, 12:30 PM
viper got tok de meh????? i tot viper animal....

k n i g h t
01-07-2007, 10:29 PM
Where shall i strike belongs to viper. Not slardar.

haha ur right... ps naga all sound alike ><

quincyzzx
01-07-2007, 10:33 PM
more agi = more armour .. also more dmg reduction .. :/
no reduce spell damage so gg or???

shinigami-boy
04-04-2007, 10:40 AM
haha lolz hehe very easy just earily game just dun let him fram and buy ward when u are lvl 5 and use a hero like vs or zues and can let him go dreaming cause he canot fram ahah so if earily game no fram=no use in late game

freshie
04-04-2007, 10:58 AM
this version 6.43b sentry sux, there was a team i was playing against them, spend alot of gold just to get sentry to kill me, they manage to kill a few times but due to the short duration of sentry, they wasted too much gold just to sentry and farm safely while i keep swapping lane or neutral. End game 3 of their heroes no items.

Would prefer a BH, slardar or even doom as a direct counter, drow is good but silence must be accurate, guinsoo as item if sa is too much a threat. good escaping skill heroes like qop, am, faceless or even weaver, bone, pl can be gem carrier.

<3dwarf
04-04-2007, 11:19 AM
congrats 100th post ^^

StripperA
04-04-2007, 12:03 PM
lol before u know it dwarf gonna 1k up

freshie
04-04-2007, 01:43 PM
congrats 100th post ^^

thank you, now 101 posts. i think i will congratulate your 1000 posts before i hit my 150 lol

<3dwarf
04-04-2007, 02:02 PM
lols... dats unlikely to happen la~

xXSupanoobXx
04-04-2007, 04:14 PM
Use bloodseeker. He appear, either you Rage him and have ur whole team pwn him or rupture him and see if he stupid or not.

s[ky]h4rtx
04-04-2007, 05:24 PM
lols ..
1)on ur mh n pawn him
2)go sookee jewellery n buy a gem .

ruixiang
04-04-2007, 06:26 PM
wtf i wasted my whole day reading a 4 pages thread which was full of crap..

Thread digger

<3dwarf
04-04-2007, 08:26 PM
actually counter SA is easy, but how does SA counter people dat counter him?

StripperA
04-04-2007, 09:38 PM
how does sa counter people who counter him that counter sa who counter him

KcP.šìç[k]™
04-04-2007, 09:39 PM
sa counter people who counter him that counter sa who counter him by

buying gem to clear wards.
ganging the hero with gem
smoking down treant's eye
switching lane waiting for ward to time up

StripperA
04-04-2007, 09:42 PM
lol u answered a tricky question, well done

KcP.šìç[k]™
04-04-2007, 09:44 PM
o.O i think theres more reason that that, im not a big sa fan.

StripperA
04-04-2007, 09:47 PM
neither am i..i always kill his relative at neutral creep

KcP.šìç[k]™
04-04-2007, 09:48 PM
i dun like his relative, i prefer him, he gives more gold. =D

StripperA
04-04-2007, 09:49 PM
his relative got his blue nephews, red cousins and yellow uncle

KcP.šìç[k]™
04-04-2007, 09:50 PM
blue nephews who purges, red cousins who burns and yellow uncle who waves

shinigami-boy
04-04-2007, 10:06 PM
this version 6.43b sentry sux, there was a team i was playing against them, spend alot of gold just to get sentry to kill me, they manage to kill a few times but due to the short duration of sentry, they wasted too much gold just to sentry and farm safely while i keep swapping lane or neutral. End game 3 of their heroes no items.

Would prefer a BH, slardar or even doom as a direct counter, drow is good but silence must be accurate, guinsoo as item if sa is too much a threat. good escaping skill heroes like qop, am, faceless or even weaver, bone, pl can be gem carrier.

what u said is right but at lest can kill the sa for awhile right rather then let it fram all the way till it own liek hell >.<

kimpi
04-05-2007, 05:12 AM
noobshiet all... bth

xXSupanoobXx
04-05-2007, 05:47 AM
Ya u pro tell us how to perfectly counter SA then.

For an SA to counter what counters him is to get the Manta Style. While making nukes a new counter to Manta Style users, in smoke they can't do sh*t. Mirror Image removes MOST buffs except for Doom (you can't even use it) and Rupture. W/ wards these skills are... scary.

<3dwarf
04-05-2007, 11:14 AM
SA get dagon 5, blast anyone dat exposed him

StripperA
04-05-2007, 03:39 PM
yeah u found me, i say hi back to u with 800 dmg

kimpi
04-06-2007, 04:56 AM
bth.... scare of 1 little satry..... nid to counter meh... tink u go learn how to perfect micro and marco first ba...

StripperA
04-06-2007, 01:54 PM
wise advice from the great kimpi haha

poorcloud
04-07-2007, 01:07 AM
A truly skilled Sa can own any hero that does not have spells that reveal it, or get wards or gem...

If you want to pwn SA, juz get nukers or heros that can harass well with wards or gem... the SA would be ineffective the whole game..

StripperA
04-07-2007, 03:19 AM
get zeus lol..

poorcloud
04-07-2007, 03:23 AM
yeah zeus can own sa if he gets wards lol..

StripperA
04-07-2007, 04:11 PM
the bolt electrocute the little blue man