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funnycat
11-25-2006, 05:52 PM
Wad roles does zenith ,dn or mi2 playing as a team.

:Banane48:

d0minic
11-25-2006, 06:16 PM
dun quite understand ur question ? can elaborate more plz

funnycat
11-25-2006, 06:26 PM
Like ant beibg a supporter in a team

d0minic
11-25-2006, 06:59 PM
i just noe one thing. Dotrk always play viper lol

Dot-Dotrk
11-25-2006, 10:38 PM
Dotrk always play this dotrk always play that . Dotrk ONLY use this.u dont get to choose what u wan to play in competition .eg teammate with gd micro = chen etc. u dont really get to play what u're best heroes are in dota at competition.Do u see a person who loves playing pudge gets to plays it in competition? its the heroes chose u not the other way round.so the roles are largely dependant on whos gd at what.

Ant
11-26-2006, 01:33 AM
Nevertheless, Dotrk DOES always play viper.

Always being a way of saying "almost all the time".

dunchbullyme
11-26-2006, 01:40 AM
4 early gamers + 1 dpser generally?

or 1 tanker 3 early gamer + 1 dpser ?

dpser on either side usually qop / viper / lock?

Reya
11-26-2006, 02:03 AM
I believe Dotrk also plays Lone Druid ba .

MaNtA.
12-10-2006, 08:08 PM
hmm Dotrk assumes the solo-main farmer role while he has the rest of his 4 teamates as lackeys to support him.

xsomebodyx
12-10-2006, 09:08 PM
hmm Dotrk assumes the solo-main farmer role while he has the rest of his 4 teamates as lackeys to support him.

lol @ lackeys

blahblahblah
12-11-2006, 02:32 AM
why dotrk nv play rk?

ngtes
12-11-2006, 01:14 PM
cuz he changing his nick to dotvp

blahblahblah
12-12-2006, 08:52 PM
cuz he changing his nick to dotvp
really?..lols

quincyzzx
12-12-2006, 08:58 PM
really?..lols
u believe his farting???

blahblahblah
12-12-2006, 09:04 PM
u believe his farting???
yeah. why nt?

quincyzzx
12-12-2006, 09:06 PM
farting is free but the smell is....lol

quincyzzx
12-12-2006, 09:06 PM
yeah. why nt?
meaning u lyk to smell farts?

blahblahblah
12-12-2006, 09:07 PM
wtf r u toking abt? u r so... disgusting

Shadow_Phantom
12-22-2006, 07:41 PM
All.. (i think all) top teams have at least 1 supporter hero, 1 healer, 1carry/tanker then the rest damage dealers.

olehze
12-22-2006, 07:56 PM
i believe ANT does always play lich and enchantress=D

blahblahblah
12-22-2006, 08:43 PM
i believe TOFU always play qop or viper =_+

Reya
12-23-2006, 01:07 AM
tofu also plays thd.
ant also plays lone druid :D

quincyzzx
12-23-2006, 02:19 AM
i awas play the feeder part for my team ...it is cool....make the difficulties to win higher...loler

blahblahblah
12-23-2006, 04:16 AM
my team de chen sux man.. he dono hw to heal always mak ppl die. n anyhow send ppl home der... so which role shld he play?

quincyzzx
12-23-2006, 11:42 AM
my team de chen sux man.. he dono hw to heal always mak ppl die. n anyhow send ppl home der... so which role shld he play?
my team de qop more sucky...dun even noe how farm properly n gb everitym dua pple go die....so wat role shld he play???

blahblahblah
12-23-2006, 03:09 PM
my team de qop more sucky...dun even noe how farm properly n gb everitym dua pple go die....so wat role shld he play???
is it?? or u stupid enuff when gb go die den blame ppl..

quincyzzx
12-23-2006, 06:49 PM
is it?? or u stupid enuff when gb go die den blame ppl..
no lar... he say engage de...then i go then he blink in the opposite direction so???? next tym i play tiny toss him over....no tiny i quit

LoveLauR.X3
12-25-2006, 11:09 AM
cuz he changing his nick to dotvp


no i thought it was dotnd for ntherdrake :D

weee
12-25-2006, 04:16 PM
i don't know why dota players use the term "support".
does it sounds cooler or wad?

for hero like loa or chen, yes they are support for somethings they do..
for vs?? sk?? they are also called support though i don't know why..

i rather call them gangbang-ers?? or catchers??

Reya
12-25-2006, 08:31 PM
why isnt vs a supporter ? sure, vs and sk are catchers and yet also a supporter.

blahblahblah
12-25-2006, 08:43 PM
no lehx... my vs chiong aoi dr.. den butterfly..= supporter? O_O!?

weee
12-25-2006, 09:44 PM
why isnt vs a supporter ? sure, vs and sk are catchers and yet also a supporter.

how do they support?
stun is used to gb/catch/ks/deal dmg..
how does it support?
sth is wrong with dota's support definition

quincyzzx
12-25-2006, 09:49 PM
no lehx... my vs chiong aoi dr.. den butterfly..= supporter? O_O!?
that is yr point of view...a supporter shld play his supporter part...

blahblahblah
12-25-2006, 10:31 PM
that is yr point of view...a supporter shld play his supporter part...
tat is how u play.. nt everybody must folo. simi support part

blahblahblah
12-25-2006, 10:32 PM
how do they support?
stun is used to gb/catch/ks/deal dmg..
how does it support?
sth is wrong with dota's support definition
u wrg.. normally vs nv learn stun.. vs pump the 2nd skill the what terror de den pump conmand aura.. den become supporter.. tat hw i played in my team

King4hao
12-25-2006, 11:17 PM
My 2cents:

Initiator - Heroes that start the fight.
eg. Enigma,Treant,tide hunter..(mass disable)

Disabler - Heroes that disable the opposite team disablers/carrier.
eg.Rhasta,ES,CM. Hero that buy guinsoo/eul

Carrier - High dps(damage per second) heroes. Usual HOM+BOT built
Eg. bone uhh..

I consider any form of stun as disable.
Each hero can belong to more than one category .

Take lich for example;
-Guinsoo/eul lich make him a disabler
-Frost Nova/Chain Frost is the offensive side and the slow to the dps hero is considered as support.
-Lich can frost armour up to 3/4 allies at any point. That decent support.

blahblahblah
12-26-2006, 12:15 AM
indeed ur 2cent....

Reya
12-26-2006, 01:16 AM
King4Hao; you are definitely correct but for me, i dont see heroes like the way you do ( initiator, disabler and carrier ). for me, i see heroes the common way, Engager, tanker, supporter, and damager. i'd add in if i meet up some more from my friends / team.

As engager, similar to your initiator, it starts the fight.
As tanker, like VS and alchemist, take in dmg. ( well, duhz )
As supporter, i define supporter as a stunner and/or disabler. ( maybe many people think this way as me )
As damager, like bone and SF ( Shadow Fiend ) , with high atk and high aspd, erm duhz, ok, high dmg ~_~

This is just how i define it :/

weee; VS with a bkb, to me, is support, with swap(can say its engagement and support), and stun(damage and support). This is what i think and to others, it may not. If you think this answer of mine to you isnt good enough, how about LoA ? Surely a supporter :/

Tell me whats your point of view anyway (:

blahblahblah
12-26-2006, 02:20 AM
l0ls.. wtf vs so paper hw to be tanker??1 spell tio vs.. can cry liaoz.. hw to tank f0r the team O_O???

Reya
12-26-2006, 02:54 AM
VS bo bian must tank also, lets say you at middle lane, then u all want go in rax, ( example you are sentinel ) 5 sentinel DOWNSLOPE, 5 scourge UPSLOPE, u bo bian also need to swap to engage, unless you donwan engage loh ): -.-"

weee
12-26-2006, 05:02 AM
u wrg.. normally vs nv learn stun.. vs pump the 2nd skill the what terror de den pump conmand aura.. den become supporter.. tat hw i played in my team

:Banane10: wtf..are u serious?
every vs come out to backstab with a stun in every replay..
i have never seen a vs run out from the back and TERROR!
woo i'm v interested to c that vs play..

@ Reya
i would still consider a stun as a catching skill.. can't c how it supports lol..
and i did mention LOA is a support during early so i doesnt matter..

Reya
12-26-2006, 05:35 AM
lols Terror is good but most people don use it .. minus 6 armour and dmg by 20% is quite a pain -.-"
but most people don use it cause they call it waste of mana -.-"

blahblahblah
12-26-2006, 06:45 AM
:Banane10: wtf..are u serious?
every vs come out to backstab with a stun in every replay..
i have never seen a vs run out from the back and TERROR!
woo i'm v interested to c that vs play..

@ Reya
i would still consider a stun as a catching skill.. can't c how it supports lol..
and i did mention LOA is a support during early so i doesnt matter..
im serious of coz....

blahblahblah
12-26-2006, 06:45 AM
VS bo bian must tank also, lets say you at middle lane, then u all want go in rax, ( example you are sentinel ) 5 sentinel DOWNSLOPE, 5 scourge UPSLOPE, u bo bian also need to swap to engage, unless you donwan engage loh ): -.-"
den don engage l0r... peacefully rax..

BUSTER
12-26-2006, 09:28 AM
Heroes like loa, some of the teams in singapore use him mainly as a supporter/warder instead of a late gamer.

every vs come out to backstab with a stun in every replay..
i have never seen a vs run out from the back and TERROR!
woo i'm v interested to c that vs play..

To think of it, i have never seen it before too

quincyzzx
12-26-2006, 05:26 PM
My 2cents:

Initiator - Heroes that start the fight.
eg. Enigma,Treant,tide hunter..(mass disable)

Disabler - Heroes that disable the opposite team disablers/carrier.
eg.Rhasta,ES,CM. Hero that buy guinsoo/eul

Carrier - High dps(damage per second) heroes. Usual HOM+BOT built
Eg. bone uhh..

I consider any form of stun as disable.
Each hero can belong to more than one category .

Take lich for example;
-Guinsoo/eul lich make him a disabler
-Frost Nova/Chain Frost is the offensive side and the slow to the dps hero is considered as support.
-Lich can frost armour up to 3/4 allies at any point. That decent support.
who gav him a penny?????

Reya
12-26-2006, 08:07 PM
Heroes like loa, some of the teams in singapore use him mainly as a supporter/warder instead of a late gamer.



To think of it, i have never seen it before too


No, most LoA now play support early-mid game, and change style to a late gamer at late game xD

quincyzzx
12-26-2006, 10:19 PM
loa early got mana = imbal shit n can tag wif the enemy to self regen up 1k plus of hp or more if u noe how....

blahblahblah
12-27-2006, 11:15 AM
Wow!???!?!!

quincyzzx
12-27-2006, 11:16 AM
Wow!???!?!!
u wow simi wow...frog in a well or???

blahblahblah
12-27-2006, 11:20 AM
shhhh.....stp crapping pls

quincyzzx
12-27-2006, 11:26 AM
n yr well i presume is white in colour n oftenly leaves a unpleasant smell n some tym the water goes back wards n yr sky has no sun...n some time yr sky will b cover up n u would of it as a ufo n sure u do get yellow rains n landslide oftenly

StripperA
04-23-2007, 05:53 AM
n yr well i presume is white in colour n oftenly leaves a unpleasant smell n some tym the water goes back wards n yr sky has no sun...n some time yr sky will b cover up n u would of it as a ufo n sure u do get yellow rains n landslide oftenly

lol, wtf classic~