need help with this pair

[henry22]

i posted at the wrong forum the other time.anyway is there a good counter for LOA and QOP in a lane?thanks

[blahblahblah]

viper thd?

[henry22]

oh but normally viper will be 'soloing' mid rite..so rather hard to get it at sides..

[Hebe]

Chen and someone else.

[LoveLauR.X3]

Chen And THD :D

[blahblahblah]

chen depend in luk too.. if ltr spawn all giant wolf/ golem l0ls..

[OpelxFrost]

na dw sk. any hero tat can make ur opponent invunerable to cancel out loa shield. na best though since it counters both. when choosing a hero to counter, tink of hero nt used in common draft.

[henry22]

ok qop and loa is still not so invincible..but how to fully nullify their potential late game slaughter without having to put 3 heroes there?

[henry22]

sorry.adding on..qop is considered untouchable wif loa there..so qop can farm wif ease.wad about viper n loa?

[Shadow_Phantom]

Chen and axe.

[d0minic]

warlock ? can solo against both i guess.

[blahblahblah]

warlock ? can solo against both i guess.
lols? lvl 1 tio t0ck liaoz

[banisher]

but viper gd enough to solo. y need LoA?
thinking maybe sk thd can take them on? high dmg output shld be able to take down qop fast

[siicklyretarded]

think they need sudden spike dmg instead of aoe that deals dmg per sec. eg, epic

[gunblade]

rk and enigma can take them both sentinel vs scourge ^^

[Dart@]

Depends, use chen lor. get satyr hellcaller. Burn the loa mana till song song.
Dun let him cast shield. Qop and loa in the same lane at early game is crazy.
if all goes well,lvl 3 the qop shuld get first blood and maybe a double kill first blood.

[chad129]

lich enigma... dark rit and conversion gg 0_0

[jl89]

hmmm anyone thought of kotl?

[rubyyk]

quit right away...join another game

[slack]

thats what ruby always do in online matches

[jl89]

lols dont we all=))

[d4rkw1sH]

nopez not me!

[StripperA]

I always thought of Na+Viper+Zeus. Na burns off the loa mana, viper just poke a few poison attacks then zeus control qop with zaps. It might not kill them but it should deter them from doing any real damage.

[ruixiang]

I always thought of Na+Viper+Zeus. Na burns off the loa mana, viper just poke a few poison attacks then zeus control qop with zaps. It might not kill them but it should deter them from doing any real damage.

Dat would be pointless... The point of having 3 heroes in 1 lane is to make sure u control the heroes and kip on killing dem. Bt if u dun even kill den its realli pointless le ... Actually KOTL is a gd choice... Illuminate frm far would break the aphotic shield and cause a little dmg.

[StripperA]

If you control them like that, they can't farm what. If you kill, it's a bonus. But 3 players always damn stressful one, very pek chek to farm..

[darrell311]

so is 3-1-1 lane effective? were having a tournament tomorrow and i wanna know if it would be the right decision to do 3-1-1..

[s[ky]h4rtx]

actuali y tink so much aiyo eh .. dots rk n chen sure take thm out . wan try ?

[Mrsleepyx]

hey why dont u choose qop first?isnt it a better choice ^^

[StripperA]

bb+kotl <========

[df01]

i have a suggestion,

if you'd want to find heroes to beat the pair in the lane, why not spend to time to think of a team that'll beat the team instead.

winning one lane isn't everything. :)

and chances are you won't meet the same combo everytime, you might meet sk+ts, tiny+vs, lina+rk, qop+sk, blah blah and another 1000000 differents hero parings.

think in terms of overall strategy instead.

btw, na would be good to break that combo. and na doesnt have to be in that lane either, a roaming na screws every lane up. roar*

[princeed]

na+ silencer.. mana burn + curse.. imbal!!