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Shawn
12-27-2005, 09:14 PM
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Date: 13th January to 15th January, Time - 8pm to 3am
Player(s): 1 vs 1 (2 rounds, Home and Away game)
Game Format: AP mode.
Version: 6.27b
Venue: Home
Registration Fee: SDG 5.00 (Pay through Pay Pal)

Prize:
1st – SGD 50.00 +
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Logitech™ Precision PC Gaming Headset (refurbished) + Hall of Fame + DotaSG 1v1 Champion Award
2nd – SGD 30.00 + Hall of Fame

Registration closing date: 11 January 2006 (Wednesday 10pm)

How to register?

Make payment via PayPal. Instructions below
Fill up registration form: http://www.dotasg.com/forums/newthread.php?do=1v1reg


*NOTE* You are not registered until you have sent in the payment to our PayPal account, on a first-come-first-serve basis

Payment method:
Please follow the following steps to register for the tournament:

Register an account on our website (www.dotasg.com (http://www.dotasg.com/forums/../)) if you haven’t done so.
Login and go to http://www.dotasg.com/forums/payments.php
Ignore the “1 Day” and click on USD 3.10 payment and then click Order.
Register for a PayPal™ account if you haven’t done so and then login to pay. Any competitor who turned up late for your game within 10 minutes will be given a game loss. So please kindly turn up punctually for your game as not to let your opponent wait.

Any registration with missing information will be rejected, so remember to put in all needed information fully.

Tournament Format?
For the first round, players will be broken up into 4 groups to play in round robin league. Winners from each mini league, total of 4 will then proceed to the KO stage of single elimination. The DOTA champion will be the final survival in the KO stage.

Winning Conditions?
One round will end when.
Either A: The middle lane base Tower is destroy.
OR B: You opponents accumulated 3 deaths (die to either creep, towers, heroes and etc.)

Game Rules and Regulations:
1) Players will play 2 matches, one home and one away.

2) Home side player will start 1st round , he/she will (a) Host game, (b) Play on sentinel side (c) Make hero selection first. Hero selection must be done before game starts. Home side is defined by player named on the left hand side in the match up chart. Example if PPG vs CHOLE, then PPG will start round 1 as home side in round 1, then as away side in round 2.

3) You are free to move anywhere, but only allowed to kil creeps in the middle lanes. However if any creeps enter your base you are allowed to kill them. "Base" here is defined as the area bordered by edge structures inside the base at both the Sentinel and Scourge side. The outer most two towers in each lane are not considered as border of base.

4) No taking of any runes.

5) Creep luring is not allowed.

6) Sapphire Water and Scroll of Teleportation are banned.

7) No exploitation of bugs, like blinking into tavern, no using Sandking to cast spells from below and blah blah blah. You all should know what are the bugs that can be exploited and what are not. If unsure, ask before you start game. No stupid excuse like I don't know and accident will be entertained.

8) Backdooring is allowed, eg. skipping towers or buildings.

9) Start Money is $1700, only a single observer or judge is allowed to be observing the game any side. If judge or observer is not present, then a computer player is to be added to any side without any obs judge.

Tie/Same Score Conditions
11) If there is a tie break in the mini league(1st stage) of players of same score fighting for the top spot, the winner will be 1st decided by a head-on score followed by the total number of hero and tower kills in their two games. IF there is still a tie we will decide it based on the faster time winner in the two games.

12) For the KO rounds(2nd Stage), 2 games will be played home and away, if there is a tie then winner will be determined by tower and hero kills added up. The player with more total kills will go through. If this is draw, then we will take the fastest time win in the 2 games played.

12) Any competitor who turned up late for your game within 10 minutes will be given a game loss.


10 minutes before your scheduled game's time, please kindly proceed to channel #DotaSG in galaxynet and wait for your opponent to setup the game. If you do not have an IRC client, you can use our web client, link available on navigation bar. Alternatively, you can try to contact your opponent via msn. We will release the contact information and user accounts of players registered for the tournament, so be sure to check your private message box on the forum incase your opponent is trying to contact you. Game can be played either through Battlenet or Lancraft depending on the player's agreement. But if either one cannot play on Battlenet then it has to be played on Lancraft.

How to report results properly?
Upon receiving the score and replays of both home and away games by the winner of both round to admin@dotasg.com email, the score will be locked in and recorded by DOTASG's game admin if there are not further dispute.

Replays are to named as PlayerA_vs_PlayerB_RoundNumber.
Example, PPG vs CHOLE match up, then two games are to be save as PPG_vs_CHOLE_R1 and CHOLE_vs_PPG_R2

Scores are to be reported in email's title as PlayerA vs PlayerB (score:score).
Example , PPG vs CHOLE match up, PPG won 2 game and the score would be reported as PPG vs CHOLE (2:0)

For games that are draw with each player winning one round, then it's the left hand side player's duty to send in replay. Replays not sent will result in 0 score for that player. Intentional non submission of draw result will cause that player to be put into hall of shame and be punished with game loss for next game or even disqualification.

Any results reporting email that is sent without both the replays and the score will be void (no score for both players) for that match up.

Please feel free to bring it up in our comment section or email to admin@dotasg.com if you have any questions.

Hime ^^
12-29-2005, 05:51 PM
wah can layman the terms and conditions? abit too much to digest...

Shawn
12-29-2005, 05:59 PM
wah can layman the terms and conditions? abit too much to digest...
Welcome to our new forum :D

Well if its too much to read at a time then you just read until the rules and regulations part, which is basically the in-game rules which is not that important yet.

Hime ^^
12-29-2005, 06:01 PM
the in game rulez are mostl the same as last time.... but i cant play at home lei... so how ah?? can play at HQ??

Shawn
12-29-2005, 06:08 PM
the in game rulez are mostl the same as last time.... but i cant play at home lei... so how ah?? can play at HQ??
Ya you can play at lan shop also, but check with the shop if you can save and email us the replay, cause it is needed. Also make sure the place has access to MIRC and/or MSN.

Hime ^^
12-29-2005, 06:31 PM
i check with qi he lo... abit troublesome lei... but i think it can be done lar... :P

looks like i be registering for it lo... :P

Shawn
12-29-2005, 06:44 PM
Ok cool thanks for your support. When you are ready you can see the steps to register above, any problem just PM me directly :)

Hime ^^
12-29-2005, 06:51 PM
TY... no prob... but not so soon lar.. my account don have enuff at the moment to deduct... :P

idle
12-29-2005, 07:21 PM
damn i cant participate -.-

Hime ^^
12-29-2005, 07:22 PM
why?? cant pay using paypal? or not free??

DOTASG_Kel
12-29-2005, 09:44 PM
Yes, you can play at HQ. And get your friends to join too!

Hebe
12-30-2005, 02:20 AM
The middle lane base Tower is destroy.

Eh.. The Middle Lane Tower Destroy.. The First One Or The Whole...

Shawn
12-30-2005, 02:21 AM
Eh.. The Middle Lane Tower Destroy.. The First One Or The Whole...
The first tower in your base, the one near the slope

idle
12-30-2005, 12:08 PM
dont think they allow dotaSG core memers to join.

Hebe
12-30-2005, 12:16 PM
The first tower in your base, the one near the slope

oOo... mean total 3 towers in total ? :confused:

Shawn
12-30-2005, 12:29 PM
oOo... mean total 3 towers in total ? :confused:
Yes. Either that or 3 kills.

ShadowZ
12-30-2005, 04:57 PM
new questions

1) maybe its explained but i want to reconfirm

player A vs player B

game 1 : A won B .. 3 kills to 0 kills but B got 2 tower down
game 2 : B won A .. 3 kills to 1 kills and A got 0 tower down

A wins or B wins ??

2)

Can i let say .. go top lane , leech the exp from the creep but didnt touch any of the creep ?? =D . As for the rule , i assume that we cant kill neutral creep as well ?? even those in the middle lane . right?

applecats
12-30-2005, 05:40 PM
shawn, u forgot to mention when is the closing date for registration.. or i missed it somewhere:o darn who can sponsor me i wanna join woh! are we dotasg ppl allowed to join btw?

Shawn
12-30-2005, 05:42 PM
1) It doesnt matter who wins as we are playing league format, both teams will get their respective points and eventually the winner of the group with most points will go through. When we reach the KO stage, if there is a tie then..

11) If there is a tie break in the mini league(1st stage), the winner will be 1st decided by a head-on score followed by the total number of kills in their two games.

2) Yes you can. Of course, in the end your opponent will end up with money and level advantage, and possibly towers which both give you money and a step nearer to winning the game. We wont restrict you from doing that though. :D No creeping of any neutral creeps, yes it includes those near the middle lane.

Shawn
12-30-2005, 05:45 PM
shawn, u forgot to mention when is the closing date for registration.. or i missed it somewhere:o darn who can sponsor me i wanna join woh! are we dotasg ppl allowed to join btw?
Registration closing date: 12 January 2006 (Friday Mid-Night)

Heh applecats you cant join of course. HOWEVER you can tell your friends to join ! :p

Ant
12-30-2005, 06:35 PM
If a win is given by killing the 3rd tower, does it count towards hero frag score at all? Or does it just give a win without any frags. Assuming one player wins the first match 3-1, and the other player wins the 2nd match 1-0 by killing the tower. The win is still given to the first player based on hero frags. Maybe after the 1st match, the 1st player decided to just stay in base and let his tower fall, since no deaths mean he had no way of losing. I think killing the final tower should instantly set the winner as having gotten 3 hero kills in that match.

Also, since 1v1 is a game of control, I think there are some problems with allowing players to gain XP on other lanes whereas not being able to attack creeps there. Of cos, players should be allowed free mobility. However, I think as long as both heroes are in the same lane, they should be allowed to attack creeps, and of course they can attack anything they want in the mid lane. And since when did people gian XP disadvantages by sitting in a different lane o.o?

By allowing people to sit at different lanes and gain xp without being touched by their opponents, the disadvantage of late gamers is reduced. (TBC when I'm back).

Shawn
12-30-2005, 08:07 PM
I think you have misunderstood our league structure. Like I mentioned to ShadowZ, there isnt a need to find a winner between 2 teams as we are playing league format, both teams will get their respective points and eventually the winner of the group with most points will go through. When we reach the KO stage, if there is a tie then..

11) If there is a tie break in the mini league(1st stage), the winner will be 1st decided by a head-on score followed by the total number of kills in their two games.

Yes typo on the exp part, but the money advantage and especially tower kills are significant enough to negate the fact that late game heroes are able to get to higher levels without being killed. Creep kill money + tower money = stronger early game hero compared to a late game hero with less money. The tower can be pushed down easily should the opponent decide to keep farming until late levels, and the game is won not only by kills but also tower kills so this rules gives more dimension to the 1v1 gameplay.

Ant
12-30-2005, 10:42 PM
So... about the tower part?

But avoidance will make the games loongg t.t I like 1v1 to be more intense and not to make 2 players avoid each other but :( I guess you guys have thought through the rules much better than I have.

Also, by the time the 2nd tower is breached, say by an early gamer, the late gamer will have enough levels to, regardless of items, hold his own against most nukers.

Shawn
12-31-2005, 01:53 AM
Which tower part are you referring to?

I agree, im also one for intense action :D. But i suppose the rules cant cover everything right? Theres a need to have some freedom for the players so they can exercise their creativity in order to win.

Perhaps.. but figure any early-gamer loaded with armor and mana/dmg vs a high level bone with no significant items. The winner will still be obvious though.

Btw Ant you interested to sign up? Come support our 1st event on the new website... we will be collecting payment at e2Max tommorrow for the convenience of those that do not have PayPal

Ant
12-31-2005, 02:48 AM
The part about whether a win by tower grants frags. It's a very very possible event whether in league or elimination stages that someone wins by killing the 3rd tower.

I would sign up to defend title k ^^ but 13-15 cannot make it.

Hime ^^
12-31-2005, 05:28 PM
actually i felt, game win for 1v1 should be the opponent's throne/tree down, this way its fairer lo...

to speed up the game, play -sm lo..

i mean think of this lar... 1v1, whu ever take sniper definitely kio tower like nobody's business... i played in alot of 1v1 one situation whereby mostly dwarven owns the game throughout lo... so i dunno how fair it is like this le...

Ant
12-31-2005, 06:43 PM
Nono -SM is even harder to control. Sit back without whacking creeps and you earn almost as much as someone who farms.

And Sniper is good, but counterable in 1v1.

ComPleX
12-31-2005, 10:29 PM
O no payment by PayPal lol how to pay via that =.= lol.


Luna Moonfang would be ownage if opponent ain't a stunner.


EDIT: Cannot upload avatars arh...? I uploaded leh why cannot see one =(

Hime ^^
12-31-2005, 11:17 PM
luna moonfang is definite ownage against non stunners.... :P but not all... moonfang is nothing against jug at lvl 6....

Shawn
01-01-2006, 04:52 PM
O no payment by PayPal lol how to pay via that =.= lol.


Luna Moonfang would be ownage if opponent ain't a stunner.


EDIT: Cannot upload avatars arh...? I uploaded leh why cannot see one =(
Can you get access to a credit/debit card through your dad/mom etc? If can i can assist you through setting up a PayPal account. Let me know

ComPleX
01-02-2006, 02:11 AM
The registration is over...?

Hime ^^
01-02-2006, 09:48 AM
The registration is over...?

not yet lei... the closing date is on the 12th i think...

divaangelinette
01-02-2006, 03:10 PM
I got a question,
Mid lane base tower is destroyed: Which tower does it refer to?

Shawn
01-02-2006, 03:49 PM
I got a question,
Mid lane base tower is destroyed: Which tower does it refer to?
It refers to the tower at the entrance of your base, middle lane

DarK)MaG3
01-03-2006, 03:43 PM
The disallowing of the creeping of neutrals part. Wouldn't heros like chen be pretty much useless as he cant clear those useless creeps for the better creeps to spawn.

Shawn
01-03-2006, 04:27 PM
The disallowing of the creeping of neutrals part. Wouldn't heros like chen be pretty much useless as he cant clear those useless creeps for the better creeps to spawn.
We cant really make it perfect for every hero, every build and in this case we wouldnt be able to set a rule to define "useful"/"useless" creeps to Chen as it is all in the view of the player. Allowing it to farm neutral would not be fair, so we would have to make it the same for all - No farming of any neutral creeps at all.

If you can suggest better rule for this issue though, please let me know :)

Ragnarok
01-05-2006, 03:29 PM
erm...those with connection problem. For mi like i cant join game but yet i can create game for ppl to join...so how?

I will be the first one to lag out no matter i joined whose game....

Shawn
01-05-2006, 04:14 PM
erm...those with connection problem. For mi like i cant join game but yet i can create game for ppl to join...so how?

I will be the first one to lag out no matter i joined whose game....
Then you would have to find a solution to your connection problem...perhaps check your PC firewall settings and if not play from a friend's house or cybercafe which opens late.

y|nsh3ng™st1ck
01-05-2006, 08:19 PM
best is try to fix your own computer. becos from a lanshop...u cant save the replay.

pesichew
01-05-2006, 10:42 PM
when is the fixtures coming out ?:)

Ragnarok
01-06-2006, 01:46 PM
erm...whos the host for every game? the player or judge??

Klub 53
01-06-2006, 02:03 PM
Can you explain a'lil more on the part where observers are allowed?

Klub 53
01-06-2006, 02:05 PM
Not to be rude but.. what if Host of game met up with disconnection or technical problems?

Shawn
01-06-2006, 02:22 PM
pesichew : Brackets out after registration is closed, which is on the 12th Jan unless our slots are filled up earlier

Ragnarok : Players will host their own matches. Its impossible for judges to host the matches as there are quite a number of matches going on at a same time

Klub 53 : Observers refer to referees, no observing is allowed at any time other than our staff referees. Referee/external hosts may come in if there is lag/disconnection problem. Lag is to be indicated within 2 minutes of the game started.

Ragnarok
01-06-2006, 03:20 PM
yes....sir..tt's my problem...i can host game wif the minimum player of 3 connection in my game which will reduce my lag out to the minimum...this exclude of joining game(will lag out)...only apply to i host the game...

so izzit possible for mi to host every game im going to play???

Shawn
01-06-2006, 06:29 PM
yes....sir..tt's my problem...i can host game wif the minimum player of 3 connection in my game which will reduce my lag out to the minimum...this exclude of joining game(will lag out)...only apply to i host the game...

so izzit possible for mi to host every game im going to play???
Well, it is the player's responsibility to ensure he has a working connection and PC upon to play on (host and join games). For your situation, we will allow you to host the games BUT if there is ANY complain of lag from your opponent, any lag complain at all then the game will be remade and he will host it. If you constantly disconnect, then you would have to forfeit the game or find a suitable computer to play on.

My advice is, solve the joining games problem/get access to another computer because if your opponent says there lag in the game he's supposed to host but your doing it, then he will host it back and you would probably have to forfeit it.

Hime ^^
01-06-2006, 09:26 PM
Well, it is the player's responsibility to ensure he has a working connection and PC upon to play on (host and join games). For your situation, we will allow you to host the games BUT if there is ANY complain of lag from your opponent, any lag complain at all then the game will be remade and he will host it. If you constantly disconnect, then you would have to forfeit the game or find a suitable computer to play on.

My advice is, solve the joining games problem/get access to another computer because if your opponent says there lag in the game he's supposed to host but your doing it, then he will host it back and you would probably have to forfeit it.

then i noe liao la... see which mod free that nite then borow the mod's com lo.... keke... i will have to play at lan shop, bnet... no choice le... :P

but bnet my nick is Himeno coz they don support special characters...

Shawn
01-06-2006, 09:38 PM
then i noe liao la... see which mod free that nite then borow the mod's com lo.... keke... i will have to play at lan shop, bnet... no choice le... :P

but bnet my nick is Himeno coz they don support special characters...
Can you get access to a lanshop which can play lancraft? (Cannot create game nvm at least can join game). Cause some people dont have Bnet, but everyone expected to be able to play lancraft

Hime ^^
01-06-2006, 09:56 PM
hmmm... i have to ask the boss here at HQ le... maybe he can help me out...

Ragnarok
01-07-2006, 11:50 AM
if tt's the way...i will be easily malign of causing the lag which i will disqualified...only if the referee also lagging then we'll conclude the game also lagging? if the referee is not lagging while the opposite player is lagging...tt's the player internet not tt gd and tt's not my problem...isn't tt fair enuff??

Shawn
01-07-2006, 12:30 PM
if tt's the way...i will be easily malign of causing the lag which i will disqualified...only if the referee also lagging then we'll conclude the game also lagging? if the referee is not lagging while the opposite player is lagging...tt's the player internet not tt gd and tt's not my problem...isn't tt fair enuff??
Well sometimes lag may be unavoidable between different ISPs, lets say the referee and you is same ISP and your opponent is different, so isnt it unfair to him to have to play a laggy game 2 times? Thus, the fairest way is to have each player host once so AT LEAST when they host there is no lag.

DotaSG has to hold a fair and firm stance on this, as it is impossible if not hard to make it fair for everyone. Hope you understand

Ant
01-07-2006, 02:50 PM
How about disconnects?

Hime ^^
01-07-2006, 05:03 PM
hmm.... which mod can lend me their computer for the gaming days??? :p

Klub 53
01-07-2006, 05:52 PM
Erm.. but what if both player cannot host? Then that would be a total disadvantage to both players if they have to be disqualified. and will the game be paused if player meets with urgency or something?

Ant
01-07-2006, 06:00 PM
If both players got something urgent I'm sure they can make their own arrangements...

If both players cannot host maybe it's possible to get help from the staff to find a host... if they're that kind :P

Shawn
01-08-2006, 11:27 AM
If disconnect happens during first 20 minutes, then the game will be remade with a different host. The 2nd time it disconnects we will add up both hero and tower kills of both games and give the player with most totaled up, the winner of the match. Please save replays for both games.

If disconnect is after 20 minutes, then the winner is taken as the player with most hero and tower kills added together at that time.

This is for the league stages. For the KO stage, we will decide based on per-case basis. Note that if we feel that any player is intentionally disconnecting to abuse the rules, we will immediately ban him from the tournament and repeated offences we will consider more serious action. Rules can only do that much so please be responsible by ensuring you have a working computer and connection to play on smoothly. Thanks

Shawn
01-08-2006, 11:30 AM
Erm.. but what if both player cannot host? Then that would be a total disadvantage to both players if they have to be disqualified. and will the game be paused if player meets with urgency or something?
We will try to get a staff to host and if not, an external host (you/your opponent's friend) can come in but we will need to see the replay of the side of which the external host was in to ensure that he did not help either player in the game.

Game cannot be paused once its started.

Klub 53
01-08-2006, 07:24 PM
So.. to ensure starting credits only stays at 1.7k .. means only 2 person in each team and 1 of them will be the judge.. which means i can't see my friend play :( anyway.. thanks Shawn

klub¹

Hime ^^
01-08-2006, 07:40 PM
hmm.. i managed to get a com at HQ for fri le...

but.. i have a question... how to make starting money $1700?

Shawn
01-08-2006, 07:54 PM
hmm.. i managed to get a com at HQ for fri le...

but.. i have a question... how to make starting money $1700?
Put "Computer" into the players slot...

Hime ^^
01-08-2006, 07:57 PM
just 1 computer player rite?

idle
01-08-2006, 08:01 PM
i think not all games will have a judge, only a few, since dotasg does not have enough "staff" to conduct judging for every match, so as shawn said, some of them would require just 1 computer to fill up the space.

but thats where replays will be watched closely for any infringements or breach of rules. see who chu stunt xD ...

Shawn
01-08-2006, 08:10 PM
Wait... its 1 Computer player to be added.

idle
01-09-2006, 12:31 AM
i tot its 2 in total ? since 1 on each side if there is no judge/observer ?

Shawn
01-09-2006, 08:57 AM
Yes 1 on each side. 2 if you referring to total :X

Ragnarok
01-09-2006, 03:53 PM
omg....can i special request for every game im in...i need at least 1 judge...cos i host need at least 3 connection connecting to me...otherwise very lag=.=

idle
01-09-2006, 04:25 PM
how come so cute wan ... normally less = better ... but u lag when theres too little lol xD

Shawn
01-09-2006, 06:24 PM
omg....can i special request for every game im in...i need at least 1 judge...cos i host need at least 3 connection connecting to me...otherwise very lag=.=
Sorry, cant help on that :)

Ragnarok
01-09-2006, 11:04 PM
can i find for anyone tt will not interrupt the game to join in??for the 3rd connection

Klub 53
01-10-2006, 10:54 AM
I can help replace the computer player! : )

Shawn
01-16-2006, 09:26 PM
Download replays here:
http://www.dotasg.com/forums/local_links.php?catid=4

dr3ad
01-17-2006, 02:13 AM
for the finals of lamp vs heng, 2nd round, lamp had 3 deaths, doesnt that mean heng won? perheps i misunderstood the rules. So may i ask how was the score tabulated which made lamp win? Thanks!

Shawn
01-17-2006, 07:48 AM
for the finals of lamp vs heng, 2nd round, lamp had 3 deaths, doesnt that mean heng won? perheps i misunderstood the rules. So may i ask how was the score tabulated which made lamp win? Thanks!
12) For the KO rounds(2nd Stage), 2 games will be played home and away, if there is a tie then winner will be determined by tower and hero kills added up. The player with more total kills will go through. If this is draw, then we will take the fastest time win in the 2 games played.